tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4433024393760369647.post7619570733797482521..comments2023-05-05T02:34:17.002-07:00Comments on Mint News Blog: Most 2009 Ultra High Relief Double Eagles Grading MS70?Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger28125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4433024393760369647.post-88072217632321207042009-12-08T17:09:42.516-08:002009-12-08T17:09:42.516-08:00For your reference.
I sent 21 UHR coins to PCGS f...For your reference.<br /><br />I sent 21 UHR coins to PCGS for grading and only 5 received MS70 gradings and the rest MS69.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4433024393760369647.post-58326809276092982952009-06-26T20:45:06.431-07:002009-06-26T20:45:06.431-07:00Jay my first coin (I have two now) does happen to ...Jay my first coin (I have two now) does happen to have a die polish mark on it but still graded a ms70 (by PCGS none the less)..Although even though I am not a "PCG" my other coin looks even nicer (more luster) but yet it graded an ms69 but i'm still very happy to have two now and considering they have only made barely over 60 thousand of these its looking like a very good investment..spiffnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4433024393760369647.post-39688681212698605012009-04-20T15:56:00.000-07:002009-04-20T15:56:00.000-07:00Anonymous above, in the past I have seen the US Mi...Anonymous above, in the past I have seen the US Mint's return process work like this:<br /><br />When the returned product is received back, the Mint provides a credit for the price of the product. When they ship out your replacement, they apply a new charge for the same amount. <br /><br />The credit and charge should net to zero, and you should receive your replacement product.<br /><br />One time, when I returned a product for an exchange, the Mint did not provide me with the initial credit. They charged me when the replacement was shipped, resulting in a double charge.<br /><br />I called the Mint, the reps I spoke to understood the problem, but had to transfer me around to several departments in order to provide and authorize the credit due.<br /><br />This was pre-PBGS, not sure if the process has changed.<br /><br />Hope this helps.Mint News Bloghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15005852378363392557noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4433024393760369647.post-88410809657304959172009-04-20T13:29:00.000-07:002009-04-20T13:29:00.000-07:00I ordered on 1/22 and received on 3/18. Unfortuna...I ordered on 1/22 and received on 3/18. Unfortunately I sent back on 3/19 due to what I perceived to be flaws around the edge of the coin, perhaps flaws in the blank. It is now 4/20 and I have not received a replacement but the Mint has charged me again on my credit card. I can not get a smart enough bureaucrat to tell me why I have been charged twice. If I receive the replacement and it too is flawed it is going back and I will end my pursuit of this coin. Now I have to spend time documenting to my credit card company the double charge and get all this cleared up.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4433024393760369647.post-65042585600059126462009-04-15T23:18:00.000-07:002009-04-15T23:18:00.000-07:00I ordered my UHR coin the first day it was offered...I ordered my UHR coin the first day it was offered. My coin is absolutely gorgeous. It looks perfect to the untrained eye, but does have a very small blemish on the torch area on the obverse. Many graders will overlook such problems and grade these coins as MS70, however mine should only grade MS69. As for the previous comment, since die polish is actually part of the die, the grade of the coin will not be affected. An MS70 coin must be completely devoid of flaws with a 99% or better full strike, no toning, and must be completely in the same state as when it left the dies. Since die polish is part of the dies, it does not affect the grade.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4433024393760369647.post-57457701513261874962009-04-15T12:43:00.000-07:002009-04-15T12:43:00.000-07:00Received a UHR Double Eagle and have been searchin...Received a UHR Double Eagle and have been searching to see if others have the die polishing marks on theirs that I have. Granted you need a good deal of magnification to see them, but how many are coming out like this now? It certainly can't grade 70 with this and I'm not certain it would even go 69. Has anyone sent one in with die polishing marks and what grade did it get? Cheers..Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13281459579245753740noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4433024393760369647.post-13097398305862531382009-04-06T21:37:00.000-07:002009-04-06T21:37:00.000-07:00I agree with the previous statment. Although im ve...I agree with the previous statment. Although im very new to coin collecting, and have done it for about 6 yrs.<BR/> I only have one UHR (graded MS70 from pcgs) This is definetly my fave of all my coins and i plan on desperatly getting another before the year ends.spiffnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4433024393760369647.post-74221527000111019272009-04-05T08:40:00.000-07:002009-04-05T08:40:00.000-07:00I am the owner of several Double Eagles. They are ...I am the owner of several Double Eagles. They are flawless MS70's and they are the crown jewels in my collection. I've been collecting coins for 35 years and this is the best coin ever produced in the history of the United States to date. I urge you all to make the wisest investment you could possibly make in modern American history. This is the ONE.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4433024393760369647.post-43684391016491579512009-03-29T09:14:00.000-07:002009-03-29T09:14:00.000-07:00I ordered my coin from the US mint on February 13,...I ordered my coin from the US mint on February 13, 2009 and I received the coin via UPS on March 17th, 2009. I even had it re-directed to my work address a day later since no one was at home to sign for it a day earlier. I shipped it off to NGC for grading on the 19th of March and right now it is on it's way back to me via registered mail and it has a final grade of MS-69. I read on the internet the final grade total's for NGC and PCGS as of March 26, 2009: NGC: MS-70-567 coins, MS-69-391 coins, MS-68-5 coins=Grand Total: 963 coins; PCGS: MS-70-398 coins, MS-69-190 coins, MS-68-2 coins=Grand Total= 590 coins.....total coins graded by both firms in all grades= 1,553 coins.<BR/>I also read that even though MS-70 will always be worth more than 69's that quite possibly the MS-69 graded coins may be sleepers and may be worth a considerable amount in the very near future?? <BR/>I guess time will tell??Bobnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4433024393760369647.post-19797519151318211442009-03-28T06:37:00.000-07:002009-03-28T06:37:00.000-07:00I cannot understand why a coin any less than perfe...I cannot understand why a coin any less than perfect are being sent. It appears the mint is promoting it as a high end product by providing the mahogany case and booklet. Mint employees have told me that the coins are monitored through the process to ensure quality. Lets face it, the coin is not cheap. People are paying top dollar and nothing less should be provided. I noticed on my Certificate of Authenticity that is states the coin to be a "Business Strike". I read that means it is has been struck for circulation. I was under the impression I was buying a "Proof" quality coin. Can anyone clarify this for me? I'd like to think I made a wise purchase.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4433024393760369647.post-23110429825026515692009-03-28T05:37:00.000-07:002009-03-28T05:37:00.000-07:00Hi, I too received my UHR damaged on the raised l...Hi, I too received my UHR damaged on the raised lettered edge, I have sent it in to be checked out. Naturally I hope the deformations and shearred off letters are cause for a rarer coin, but probably just a dirty die!<BR/> I wonder how many other folks have had this issue? Perhaps this would be a good topic of discussion? Is this the difference in grading designations?<BR/>ThanksAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4433024393760369647.post-60421982645412001302009-03-27T02:59:00.000-07:002009-03-27T02:59:00.000-07:00I ordered my coin on approximately 2-20-09. Had a ...I ordered my coin on approximately 2-20-09. Had a friend of mine order one for me last Thurs. Both were delivered today. I did not receive the booklet. A note inside said they would be mailing them out as soon as they become available. As others have stated, the box is overkill. However, the wooden box is well crafted. Overall, I guess I'm satisfied. I think I like my older St Gaudens $20 gold coin because it is larger in diameter. I'm not grading or selling. I think its funny that people put them on Ebay when you can purchase them directly from the mint.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4433024393760369647.post-52297732694810944042009-03-25T09:48:00.000-07:002009-03-25T09:48:00.000-07:00I ordered my UHR on opening day, about 4 hours in....I ordered my UHR on opening day, about 4 hours in. I just received it on March 16 and too late for 1st Strike. Mine was solidly secure it the presentation box. The surfaces look flawless under 10X but the raised edge has some imperfections. I thought of sending it back, but what assurance do I have that I will get something better? I might even get someone else's return!. At least I fell under the 30 day return policy, so I have a little time to research.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4433024393760369647.post-46971465246785348392009-03-22T22:38:00.000-07:002009-03-22T22:38:00.000-07:00I recieved my UHR on the 18th (ordered on 2/10/9)....I recieved my UHR on the 18th (ordered on 2/10/9).. Looks flawless. I don't think having modern coins graded is either a rip off or scam. old coins will very very rarely ever get a perfect grade obviously. We should take advantage of being able to own a flawless coin that will stay perfectly sealed and protected in there new slabbed cases forever. That being said the mint should know better by now that most coin collctors who enjoy having there coins graded and sealed should start designing there packaging and wooden cases to hold slabbed coins so that the cases they shipped us dont wind up as fancy junk clutering up the closet and give people the option on the type of packaging..Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4433024393760369647.post-57637871780035274202009-03-17T14:42:00.000-07:002009-03-17T14:42:00.000-07:00My UHR arrived yesterday and it was a huge disappo...My UHR arrived yesterday and it was a huge disappointment. There are fine radial scratches in the rays & field between the date & olive branch. They aren't visible without a 10X glass, but very obvious with magnification. The capitol and oak leaf details are also lousy. I think the mint has some serious quality issues they need to address and this was the real reason UHR shipping was delayed. A 2008 proof AGE I have also has some frost missing on a couple of the rays.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4433024393760369647.post-70728379280162842142009-03-14T21:24:00.000-07:002009-03-14T21:24:00.000-07:00I ordered mine on Jaunuary 28. It was shipped Marc...I ordered mine on Jaunuary 28. It was shipped March 11, & I received it the morning of March 12. I also agree that while beautiful, the box size is overkill. I have to laugh at e-bay ads saying mint sealed. A UPS sticker and a strip of clear tape. The bottom is not "sealed", and could easily be opened with a razor blade & reglued, with no trace. The mints own web site claims that "early release" or "first strike" designations are totally meaningless, as dies on proofs are changed frequently, & everyone has an equal chance as to the quality or grade.In my opinion, those paying a premium for these graded ones now, will be burned when they try to sell them later. The only slab coins I ever bought were a few Indian Head pennies that I removed from the holders & put in my collection book. I agree with others that grading new coins is a rip off & a waste of money. I buy my coins because I like them for their looks, & if they grade high when I sell at a later date, so be it. Investment value is secondary to me.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4433024393760369647.post-20613790430574369702009-03-13T05:03:00.000-07:002009-03-13T05:03:00.000-07:00I agree with the March 12, 2009 3:07 PM poster.The...I agree with the March 12, 2009 3:07 PM poster.<BR/><BR/>The coin packaging is extremely nice but much too large.<BR/><BR/>How does the mint expect us to store the coin plus packaging? No home safe or safety deposit box is that big.<BR/><BR/>As usual, I took the coin out of the packaging and put it in my safety deposit box at the bank. The empty box gets pushed to the back of my closet.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4433024393760369647.post-80173423310448847762009-03-12T15:07:00.000-07:002009-03-12T15:07:00.000-07:00I ordered my coin on 1/27; received today. Gorgeou...I ordered my coin on 1/27; received today. Gorgeous case, but overkill relative to coin size (others have noted this fact). I see no spots; and, in fact, I think this is one of the best packaged coins I have ever received from the Mint. If this coin isn't a "70", what is? I almost forgot how small a pure 1 ounce gold coin was; but then again, that's what is so neat about gold. . .easily concealed, easily transportable.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4433024393760369647.post-15983903509890433692009-03-12T10:52:00.000-07:002009-03-12T10:52:00.000-07:00It is unfair that the orders were not shipped in t...It is unfair that the orders were not shipped in the correct order. I did not order mine until Jan. 28th online, and I was notified by email that it had shipped yesterday (March 11th). The mint is so disorganized right now that I do not know what else to say.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4433024393760369647.post-78050917779657976362009-03-12T08:42:00.000-07:002009-03-12T08:42:00.000-07:00One factor in slabbing coins is the appearance/pre...One factor in slabbing coins is the appearance/prevalence of "spotting" after the coin is encased. I have come across many a proof ASE which develops unsightly spots after the coin is slabbed. Though I must admit in favor of grading, that having a "perfect" coin is holding a gem. It would be nice if there was a grading system which maintained the original mint packaging but still assigned a grade. Alas this would be too prone to tampering. A good compromise is to keep the OGP/COA with the graded coin for future sale.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4433024393760369647.post-69304205123956037272009-03-12T08:09:00.000-07:002009-03-12T08:09:00.000-07:00I also agree with the two previous posts. This gr...I also agree with the two previous posts. This grading process should be for older coins. Grading of new coins appears to be "gimmicky." <BR/> As for me I decline to have any new coins graded and urge others to do the same. Lets add some respectability back to coin collecting.<BR/> Now having said this I also believe we still have a free country for the time being and if someone wants to grade their new coins that is their business.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4433024393760369647.post-75453679448630762782009-03-12T08:03:00.000-07:002009-03-12T08:03:00.000-07:00Are the grading services posing how many coins the...Are the grading services posing how many coins they have graded so far?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4433024393760369647.post-54681609643092162782009-03-11T16:06:00.000-07:002009-03-11T16:06:00.000-07:00I have to agree with the previous post about gradi...I have to agree with the previous post about grading brand new coins from the mint. Too many novice collectors will get burned by crooks that sell these hyped-up coins and this will ultimately be bad for our hobby. Independent grading does make sense for older rare coins with values that often jump astronomically from one grade to the next.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4433024393760369647.post-64457826346347831442009-03-11T14:30:00.000-07:002009-03-11T14:30:00.000-07:00This whole thing about professionally grading bran...This whole thing about professionally grading brand new coins from the mint really bugs me. I can see the usefulness of professionally grading very valuable old coins, which have the possibility of being either counterfeited, or subject to very costly mis-grading, but this whole thing about professionally grading modern mint coins just seems wrong to me. I prefer the original mint packaging, rather than these ugly professionally graded coin holders, and the subsequent mark up in value just seems like a big rip-off, or just an excuse to mark up the price beyond what it should be worth. I really could care less about the difference between an MS69 and MS70, and this whole "first strike" nonsense especially bothers me. I will never buy any modern mint coin that is professionally graded. Give me the original mint packaging and holders and nothing else. Anything else is subject to abuse by flippers and short term profit seekers at the expense of long term overall investment value.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4433024393760369647.post-53713974754557879882009-03-11T13:04:00.000-07:002009-03-11T13:04:00.000-07:00My coin, ordered the first day, still has not ship...My coin, ordered the first day, still has not shipped. <BR/><BR/>Today I spoke to PCGS and they said that today (March 11) is the postmark date cutoff for first strike designation.<BR/><BR/>So, due to the continuing and colossal incompetence of the U.S. Mint, I have lost the opportunity to add additional value to my coin through a first strike designation, even though I ordered on the first day.<BR/><BR/>The failure to follow their own promised FIFO procedure renders this more than just an inconvenience, and possibly an actionable breach. <BR/><BR/>Perhaps a class action suit on behalf of 40,000+ purchasers who reasonably relied to their detriment on a promised procedure would wake those stupid, slumbering, non-caring bureaucrats up.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com