2012 United States Infantry Silver Dollar Design Candidates
The Commission of Fine Arts and the Citizens Coinage Advisory Committee recently reviewed design candidates for the 2012 Infantry Silver Dollars. These coins will be issued next year to commemorate the legacy of the United States Army Infantry and the establishment of the National Infantry Museum and Soldier Center.
The program includes silver dollars with a maximum mintage of 350,000 coins, across proof and uncirculated versions. Coins may be issued during the calendar year beginning on January 1, 2012. A surcharge of $10 per coin shall be paid to the National Infantry Foundation for the purpose of establishing an endowment to support the maintenance of the Museum and Soldier Center following its completion.
According to the authorizing legislation, the designs "shall be emblematic of the courage, pride, sacrifice, sense of duty, and history of the United States Infantry." The final designs will be selected by the Secretary of the Treasury following consultation with the National Infantry Foundation, Commission of Fine Arts (CFA), and review by the Citizens Coinage Advisory Committee (CCAC).
There were a relatively large number of design candidates provided by the United States Mint, with twelve different alternatives for the obverse and seven different for the reverse. The CFA and CCAC each made different recommendations.
The CFA recommended the designs shown below:
The CCAC recommended this alternate obverse and reverse:
The National Infantry Foundation had expressed preferences for obverse designs #3 (recommended by CFA) and #6 (shown below) and reverse designs #1 (recommended by CCAC), #3 (shown below), and #7 (recommended by CFA).
The various reviews haven't produced much of a consensus. The recent design selections by the Secretary of the Treasury have tended to agree with at least someone's recommendations, so it seems likely that the final designs will be taken from the field of six alternatives above.
All nineteen different design candidates can be seen in this Coin Update News article. At a later date, the site will have more in depth coverage of the CCAC's discussions.
Other Upcoming Commemorative Coins and Medals
The other commemorative coin program authorized for 2012 will mark the bicentennial of the writing of the Star -Spangled Banner with silver dollars and $5 gold coins. Candidate designs for this program have not yet been released.
The programs for 2013 will commemorate the centennial of the Girl Scouts of the United States of America and the United States Army 5-Star Generals.
So far, one program has been authorized for 2014. This will mark the semi centennial of the Civil Rights Act of 1964.
Before any of these releases, there will be commemorative silver medals issued for the 10th anniversary of September 11, 2001. The CFA and CCAC were in near agreement about the designs for the medals, although the final selection has not yet been officially announced. The medals are expected to be available ahead of the anniversary date.
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56 Comments:
The mint needs get rid of their computers and get some real artists, who can come up with non-carton images. Get back to scupting by hand.
Prices going up on the 2010 p
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@ June 6, 2011 3:59 PM
The $365 price is within the range of the past few ATB silver P coins.
Re: 9/11 10th Anniversay Silver Medal.
I know they discussed the wording and I prefer the phrase "Never Forget" instead of "Always Remember"
@ June 6, 2011 4:00 PM
That was only the second coin in the series, but I get what you mean.
Being from NY this one really hits home. I think they could do a LOT better. These designs are way too vauge. Why not show fire/police/EMTs and the actual towers pre 9/11 in all their glory. Seriously this is a real "safe" politically correct "wussified" design...
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Personally I think all of them stink.. to cut and dry. Like one other poster said.. get rid of the computers and use some talented artists.
These are uninspired, to say the least. The CFA's choice looks like a store mannequin (think Old Navy), the CCAC's choice looks like a comic book illustration, and the NIF's is way too busy for a coin design. If any of these are used, I'll pass on this coin.
In their shoes I would've gone for INF-O-04 for the obverse - it's dynamic, and isn't contained by the the coin edge - and either R-04 or R-06 for the reverse. Both are nicely symbolic of the infantry.
On the last two reverses, it looks like at the last minute someone copied and pasted the rifle and put a box around it. How horrible. The obverses are actually decent but the reverses make them very unappealing. Where is the artistry?
What about a coin with Revolutionary Dearborn's Infantry soldier charging the British redoubt at Saratoga, a Union Soldier charging the Confederate line at Antietam, The First Infantry clearing St. Mihiel salient or maybe the best a WWII Infantryman with a Thomson charging up Omaha Beach. Where is the history with these designs? Why is all the concretion on the modern soldier? I am an Army Cold War / Gulf War veteran and believe me I would not mind a little history on our coinage.
I placed a subscription order for proof 2011 American Eagle silver coins at $45.95, but got an email saying they were $59.95.
Which is it? $59.95 is close to a 70% mark-up over spot.
Michael,
how many more military coins do we need? is this supposed to create some sort of fanaticism for our troops? no, i'm an american - i have a brain, and i have free speech.
How about
1961-2011 Alan Shepard 1st Amer in Space.
1952-2012 Alan Freid Radio Birth of Rock and Roll
1865-2015 END of Civil War Appomattox Lee and Grant on Obverse. WE ARE ONE N and S USA and CONFED Flags crossed on back.
from Michael
@ June 6, 2011 11:18 PM
It's all about politics - both sides of Congress finding a common theme of agreement.
The events you recommended sound more like candidates for medals to me.
Is it possible to have ONE post without reading about the five ounce pucks!
Is it possible to have ONE post without reading about the five ounce pucks!
June 7, 2011 2:21 AM
Quite honestly, no. For the past 8-10 months the bullion ATB's have truly been a godsend to collectors and flippers just by the sheer fact of how difficult it is/was to obtain a set of a first-of-it's kind coin. It's really been the only interesting coin the Mint has put out in some time. I don't remember any release generating this kind of broad and sustained amount of interest. Looking at the future commemorative designs gives me a big zero on the interest level. My attention will be on the ATB's at least until the last of the 2010 P's are released.
Yes, the ATBs are a great new offering to raise interest in US Mint products.
too many war related modern commemorative silver dollars. that will decrease the war related prices down to near bullion value. just like the early 80's silver dollars.
Maybe War is the future... When we can't get out of debt, War is the ultimate solution don't you think?
We should not be celebrating war on coins. Too many thousabds have dies needlessly in Iraq and Afghanastan.
I'm not sure if the only real collectable is gonna be the 5 oz ATB P 2010 series this year. If so, we better grab all the 2010 P coins we can before freebay starts responding in price
"We should not be celebrating war on coins. Too many thousabds have dies needlessly in Iraq and Afghanastan."
Politicians (or other countries) start these wars...not the troops. These coins are not about wars but about the guys dying and making the sacrifice...the troops. Personally, I'm proud of these guys and gals because they're one of the main reasons we are able to post in these forums (at least to date). Alternatively, you could be speaking German, Russian or Japanese today if it wasn't for them. If the politicians had their way, you would be speaking Arabic. It's so easy to be politically correct these days, isn't it?
That said, the coins ARE ugly and lack imagination and novelty. My grandchildren could design better coins than whatever is designing the Mint coins these days. Perhaps we need to outsource our designs to China too?
Actualy, war is good for the economy as it spurs job growth. The deaths are a necessary cost for economic progress.
"Yes, these poor soldiers were innocent victims of the evil politicians like Bush and Cheney."
Um, is this supposed to be a joke? Those guys have been gone for 2 years, and both wars are still going strong and now we are in a third war.
"placed a subscription order for proof 2011 American Eagle silver coins at $45.95, but got an email saying they were $59.95.
Which is it? $59.95 is close to a 70% mark-up over spot."
So there will be high mintages of these coins and unless silver gets to $60/0z, I may buy just one and take my chances on them selling for under issue price on the aftermarket. What do others think?
I like design #3 best, but I'm not in for one.
based on $37.00/oz. ASE one ounce proof should be around $75.95 each.
Oh ... I sure hope that you are wrong.
"Yes, these poor soldiers were innocent victims of the evil politicians like Bush and Cheney."
We've spent more money bailing out the likes of GM and banks around the world than all the wars over the past decade combined.
Wouldn't it be ironic if the Mint produced a silver or gold coin commemorating the QE1/QE2 policies of the current administration? I would definitely buy one (if only for the PM value).
These guys look like there's going into another unjust war. I pass. I agree with some of the other reviews. Why not a great Revolutionary battle image with a real fight for LIBERTY? PEACE and RON PAUL 2012
Perhaps the mint should release a coin to benefit the unemployed (this is not a joke), and allocate the entire premium above the cost of the metal and the minting to create jobs building up the national infrastructure (schools, health care, roads, and the environment).
That is a very good idea.
Enough already. The "military industrial complex" bullies need to step back and let artists and poets design our coins.
It is time to put away all the guns, bullets and death machines.
Peace.
Olive Oil
Congress should pass a Weiner coin series, everytime a pervert in washington gets caught put them on a coin. We probably could'nt afford the whole series though!
we need the mint sales report now.
8:35
I have to agree the media spends far too much time reporting about sex, one day is enough rehashing ... a coin would be a waste, although I think your comment was in jest. We need more coins commorating children "they are our tomorrow." The institution of marriage and loyalty to the family and continued freedom.
We need a coin for Florida's Gov Rick Scott showing the elderly and poor dying because of his budget cuts and his political cronies smiling from the pork he sent them.
How about a Shuttle farewell coin? Some kind of space coin.. Maybe a mars future mission coin.. anything other than war.. or presidents.. bring back walking liberty.. bring back some old designs.. the old stuff sure has more class by a long shot.
Did you guys see the article on Coinflation.com about NGC slabbing San Fransisco Mint silver eagles as such? They had photos too of what they will look like.
I have a feeling that there will not be a premium on these other than the satisfaction of owning the label and the plastic. The Mint will likely strike more at SF than W to offload some of the duty. However one can never say how the extravagant public will react. A hypster is born every minute, and the hypsters and their $ do part ways.
"Congress should pass a Weiner coin series, everytime a pervert in washington gets caught put them on a coin. We probably could'nt afford the whole series though!"
We don,t need liberal politicians or ideas on anymore coins. Especially on named Weiner who swings to the left.
...We don,t need liberal politicians or ideas on anymore coins...
Agreed, I'm yearning for the economic, housing, banking, regulatory, bailout and war policies of the Bush years. That's when I felt most secure. My retirement account flourished, my home value soared, and the fact that this nation was hours away from imploding in 2008 before we bailed out AIG was of no consequence.
Jeez folks, we can go back and forth about politics. Let's keep the arguing to coins!
Man, I hate it when the Mint drags their feet on sending the sales report! I've gotten so spoiled, getting used to finding out the numbers on Tuesdays! I used to have to wait until Thursdays when I looked at it on the Numismatic News website.
Oh, well. Hopefully tomorrow!
Just posted the latest sales report:
http://news.coinupdate.com/us-mint-sales-several-products-sell-out-0857/
The lower numbers are likely because of the price increases in precious metal coins.
The fact is that many coins are related to politics (and even political correctness). So SOME calm discussion of politics and coins is pertinent in my opinion.
For example, girls on Boy Scout coins, cheap clad presidential coins while spouse coins are gold, Alice Paul on the Chester Arther spouse coin, diversity platinum coins that do not have a white male on them, etc. Some are even arguing that military coins are wrong because they tent towards pacifism. Congress injects their politically charged views and taxpayer money into coin legislation (for good or bad) and we collectors (and taxpayers) get to live with it. Why the censorship? Why is it taboo for discussion?
Thanks for the update Michael. I think that 2011 W Gold Eagle UNC. might be a big hit down the road. I think we might see some secondary market winners for those folks who track that stuff. With all these PM offerings coupled with tightening spending habits by us ordinary folks; those that can afford will do well.
I'm still in for that 2011 W Gold Eagle UNC. but have to sell something. I have 3 of the 2009 "sonically sealed" PCGS ASE rolls that I bought in 2009. APMEX sells them for like a $1,114 a pop now. My boss offered me that for one. If I sell him 2 I can buy one of the 2011 W Gold UNC. Would you guys do that? Swap the ASE rolls for the UNC. Gold Eagle as a long term investment?
A simple solution is always to purchase exactly what you like, and be happy with your collection. The Mint has something for everyone. No reason for gripes, political or otherwise,... For example ASE's are a good series for Liberty loving folk. The commems are great for history lovers. I for one eschew TPG's, have most of my collection in OGP, and purchase themes which suit my tastes and budget.
I was and am a huge fan of the 2009 UHR. What a beautiful coin! I am also a fan of the buffaloes (gold or silver) since they are so "American." The 2006 reverse proof eagles (gold or silver) are very nice too.
Next to those, my favorite purchases have been the Liberty FS subset and the Lincoln silver coins and pennies. I like the gold and silver eagle designs, but primarily purchase those when the price is right. I am looking forward to the palladium high relief coin when/if it is offered.
Other than that, I am a numismatic opportunist and will purchase a coin if I think it is undervalued.
Perhaps the mint should release a coin to benefit the unemployed (this is not a joke), and allocate the entire premium above the cost of the metal and the minting to create jobs building up the national infrastructure (schools, health care, roads, and the environment).
If they did it would be a wooden nickle ! MADE IN CHINA !!!
LOL nice.. a UE coin.. never happen.. that might actually work in favor of the average guy.
The idea could be extended to a PM coin series to benefit the unemployed with "limited mintage," and could also be an optional part of 401Ks and IRAs. I would go for it!
These unemployment coin guys need help.. or a job! Maybe they should push for an Obama Coin.
really, really dreadful
QUOTE: Actualy, war is good for the economy as it spurs job growth. The deaths are a necessary cost for economic progress.
June 7, 2011 6:04 AM
What is wrong with you??? In history there are very few "good wars" and surely war is not considered good because of economic growth. You should read more books it will help with spelling.
MAKE LOVE; NOT WAR!!!
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