2010 Yosemite National Park 5 Ounce Silver Uncirculated Coin
Tomorrow, June 9, 2011 at 12:00 Noon ET, the United States Mint will begin sales of the 2010-P Yosemite National Park Five Ounce Silver Uncirculated Coin. This continues the steady release of the numismatic versions of the America the Beautiful Silver Coins.
The first issue featuring Hot Springs was released on April 28 and reached a sell out (waiting list) on May 13. The next issue featuring Yellowstone National Park was released on May 17 and sold out (without a waiting list) on June 1. The total availability period for each product was 15 days.The Yosemite coin features a view of the granite rock formation known as El Capitan, which rises more than 3,000 feet above the valley floor. This was designed by Joseph Menna and sculpted by Phebe Hemphill. The obverse of the coin features the restored 1932 portrait of George Washington designed by John Flanagan.
Each coin contains 5 troy ounces of .999 fine silver and has a diameter of 3 inches. This numismatic release carries the "P" mint mark and has a special finish created through a vapor blasting technique applied after striking.
Details of the offering match those of the previous two releases. There is a total mintage of 27,000 units. Pricing will be $279.95, with an ordering limit of one per household imposed.
The US Mint does caution that the pricing is subject to change, but the same price level has been used consistently across a wide range of silver market prices. When the Hot Springs coin went on sale silver was above $48 per ounce, and when Yellowstone was first offered, silver was around $34.
It seems fairly likely that the 2010-dated numismatic America the Beautiful Five Ounce Silver Coins will continue to sell out. Collectors seem to be motivated by the unique nature of the offering and the limited 27,000 mintage.
Coin Update News: NGC Will Certify 2011 Silver Eagles Struck in San Francisco
Labels: America the Beautiful Quarters
posted by Mint News Blog @ 11:56 AM
209 Comments:
I predict this one will last long enough the Mint might actually raise the household order limit before it's gone. I think it will acheive the sellout, but not in the two-week timeframe of the first two.
All 2010 ATB will sell out range for 3 to 4 week.get it when you can or you will be one feel sorry later
it will sell out quickly, those who bought the first two are in it now, at least for the first 5 issues. I will be buying mine right away, not sure what people are waiting for, the price will not be going down.
NGC will do very well on sanfran silver eagles, seeing how you must pay them to grade 500 coins at a time to get that san fran label. WHAT A JOKE
NGC is just putting their own mintmark on these silver eagles
Yosemite National Park is hands down the most beautiful place in the United States. Anyone that thinks that this will not sell out in record time is trying to fool the rest of us.
If you were only going to buy one, this is it !!
Don't snooze believing that he price of silver will be decreasing anytime soon. This same mind set kept The Mary Todd Lincoln out of your hand.
I have TWO of the unc Mary Todd Lincoln coins. And, I bought them for a lot less than the price they sold out at recently! $841 each, the original issue price.
These will sell out in two or three weeks. There is a committed collector base and only 27 large to go 'round. I plan to be in for the first five but I have my doubts the 2011's will sell more than 60 large for each coin. These coins are not cheap for silver and economy not that great.
I am wait and see on the 2011's. Sure ain't gonna jump in right away with 100 large limit scheduled per coin.
To 2:49pm: The Mint has not announced the mintages of the 2011 collector versions. Only the bullion coins have any hard numbers yet, and those may go up later.
"Yosemite National Park is hands down the most beautiful place in the United States."
It's nice to be sure, but it doesn't touch Alaska for beauty. Denali National Park is awesome and has the tallest mountain from base (almost sea level) to peak (at over 20K feet) in the world. Everest sits on the base of the Tibetan plateau, which is already at 17K, and is not even close in shear rise. Toss in a lot of caribou, moose, bears and wolves, rivers, forests, etc. and there is nothing like it on the planet earth.
That said, I'm agree the Yosemite coin will have a lower mintage and be more valuable from that standpoint.
yosemite will have a lower mintage ???? ---- All the 2010 (P) collector coins have the same mintage...27,000.
I can't wait to buy the 3 more coins from 2010 issue. After that than I can relax. I have no intention what so ever to collect more bullion "coin" that are no more than a piece of metal. I am already tired looking at the 2 coins I have.
I'll go back to something small yet valuable like gold coins.
What's the difference between DMPL and PL?
There is a "DM" before the "PL". It's meant to lighten your wallet by an extra 2 to 3 hundered dollars.
To 4:44pm: If you are tired of looking at the two you have, why are you so eager to get the other three? To flip them? If you think they are just bullion and too big, why buy any?
I agree - no reason to believe at this point 2010s wont sell out unless everyone is flipping these coins. the 5th one will be fun to watch later on this year
To: What's the difference between DMPL and PL?
You'd really have to see them in hand. I have 2 Grand Canyons...one graded PCGS MS69 and the other PCGS MS68DMPL. I would take the 68DMPL any day over the MS69. If you held the two coins in front of someone and hide the grades, 10 out of 10 people would say the 68DMPL looks better than the MS69.
first spouses retail prices up again.
2008w- 1,600.00- eliza proof
2008w- 1,500.00- eliza unc
2008w- 1,425.00- louisa proof
2008w- 1,500.00- louisa unc
2008w- 1,900.00- v buren proof
2008w- 1,975.00- v buren unc
2008w- 1,800.00- jaskson proof
2008w- 1,850.00- jackson unc
2009w- 1,525.00- anna proof
2009w- 1,600.00- anna unc
2009w- 1,550.00- letitia proof
2009w- 1,650.00- letitia unc
2009w- 1,975.00- julia proof
2009w- 2,200.00- julia unc
2009w- 1,400.00- sarah proof
2009w- 1,600.00- sarah unc
2009w- 1,425.00- margaret proof
2009w- 1,375.00- margaret unc
2010w- 1,325.00- abigail proof
2010w- 1,400.00- abigail unc
2010w- 1,350.00- jane proof
2010w- 1,275.00- jane unc
2010w- 1,325.00- buchnan proof
2010w- 1,300.00- buchanan unc
I like the FS coins too, but your prices are too high. What is the source of your data? Also, the first one says "Eliza." You must mean Elizabth Monroe because the Eliza as in Eliza Johnson is available from the Mint for about $900.
first spouses retail prices up again.
A fool and his money are soon parted.
I would love it if the mint would do a press release stating because of packing problems at west point the mint will be sending 10 million silver eagles made at west point in the raw to the s/f mint to be packaged and sold from the s/f mint location.
Love Yosemite but I find the log in the foreground of coin distracting.
Seeing how the dealer will not be able to pick out the high grade silver eagles out of the monster boxes the market is going to be flooded with a large amount of low graded silver eagles from s/f mint.The last monster unopened box i got only had about 100 silver eagle eagles in it that i felt were good enough to be graded. So anything less than ms69 will not hold up in the market,regaurdless of the s/f label from NGC.
The Yosemite will sell out within 1 week. This is because word has spread to the general public about the desirability of investing in big chunks of silver.
I don't see any reason why Yosemite will see out any quicker than the first two. That said, I still like ordering mine at noon opening day.
I just saw this article on CoinNews. Australia will be issuing a 5 ounce silver coin for $461.18 (US). The US ATB P 5 ounce coins are cheap, compared to the Aussie coin. Here come the foreign collectors!
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The Perth Mint on June 7 released a new 2011 Australian Koala 5 Oz Silver Proof Coin for collectors, its largest product in the popular koala coin series and the first issue in this size. The silver coin is currently listed for a price of $431.82 (AUS), or $461.18 (US).
IMO, the 5 0z ATB looks much nicer than the Australia 5 oz; not to even mention it's way cheaper.
Guess I'll rather buy 3 5oz ATB then 2 5oz Australia pucks.
The Yosemite will sell out within 1 week. This is because word has spread to the general public about the desirability of investing in big chunks of silver.
The smarter investment would be to buy the 2011 ATB bullion coins at prices closer to spot sliver. The ATB P coins are for collectors. BTW: There are much better investments than big chunks of silver...that train has left the station.
Talking about the 5oz Koala 2011 from Australia. Only 5000 were minted and they are proof! Here is the interesting thing: only 300 are available for sale in Australia - US buyers not welcomer this one at the Perth mint! The rest of it i.e. 4700 coins were bought by the New York Mint/Gov. Mint entities in the US. They had the coins graded by NGC of which approx. 1700 were graded PF70 and the rest PF69. They are selling the PF69 right now at $799.00 each! Sickening!
I won't be buying the Yosemite today... will wait and see on this one
I am also done with buying the 5 ounce P ATBs.
"I won't be buying the Yosemite today... will wait and see on this one"
Wait and see for what? The price is set at $279.95 and it will sell out in two weeks. Same as the other two releases. A little more insight would be appreciated.
@Anonymous said...
NGC is just putting their own mintmark on these silver eagles
June 8, 2011 1:29 PM
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What is needed is a class action lawsuit to stop this bull
Reality check:
Folks don't have the dough for all this stuff.
It's hard enough to keep up with the cost of putting gas in your car.
What are dealers paying for numismatic HS and Yellowstone ATBs?
@ June 9, 2011 6:13 AM
eBay has, for the most part, sales prices for both coins in the $345 - $385 range.
I will give it a miss; secondary mkts seems to have little interest in 5oz series
i will not buy yosemite. most designs were ugly. except the hot springs. see hot springs is the real key coin.
Hot Springs is the most unique with an "art deco" look.
I'll finish the 2010 set, but am still adopting a "wait and see" for the 2011's. A little bit of information from the Mint would be nice. How many do they plan to offer, and at what price? It seems unlikely they would keep the price at $279.95, but if spot silver stays where it's at for now maybe they will.
I got the first two ATB and will buy the next Three to complete the set. As for 2011 and beyond, I'll pass on these unless I really like the design.
Don't see anything special about the 5oz Koala 2011 design - their eyes look evil...
What's the big deal about the Hot Springs coin? It's mostly just a rendition of a government building (park hdqtrs) on a coins. Yes, the building has a very pretty ornamented art deco door and there's a little burble of spring water in the foreground. As for transfering the likeness of a government building to a coin, yeah, they did a good job. Did Teddy Roosevelt take a sitz bath somewhere in that building?
The Hot Springs is the only ATB coin that doesn't have variations of mountains and animals on it.
That's why it is my favorite.
I do like the "art deco" style too.
I'm in ofr one of all of the numismatic ATBs. I'm skipping the gold and platinum offerings.
-JBL
Let me see, I bought 2 sets of the 4 coins from last year. I also bought the first 2 issues from the Mint already.
I'm with the 6/9/11 6:11AM poster, I'm calling it quits. I can't keep up the pace with these costs as much as I want to be able to do so.
It is a shame the Mint did not make a 2 or 3 oz coin instead of the 5oz. More people would be able to buy them
"It is a shame the Mint did not make a 2 or 3 oz coin instead of the 5oz. More people would be able to buy them
June 9, 2011 7:44 AM"
The Mint was just doing what congress told them. ~$100/coin mark up is quite a bit more than the total $ for say a proof ASE, but less than the gold options.
"The Mint was just doing what congress told them. ~$100/coin mark up is quite a bit more than the total $ for say a proof ASE, but less than the gold options."
Actually the mark up per oz is greater on the ASE proof. It's price is gonna be $59.95...times 5 = 299.75
If today's silver price will hold, the UNC ASE would be around $50. That's $250 comparing to the 5 ounce ATB.
"yosemite will have a lower mintage ???? ---- All the 2010 (P) collector coins have the same mintage...27,000."
My post was discussing the Yosemite coin vs. the Alaska coin. The Yosemite will have a mintage of 27K. Alaska will likely have many more than that. Furthermore, the Alaska coin will not be minted in 2010. That was my point.
12:04 Mint's web site is running slow. Must be a lot of buyers.
I just received the credit for returned ATB Yellowstone coin. The Mint only refunded the price of the coin. Not for return shipping cost.
The coin had a nick on it over Washington head. I will pass on the Yellowstone coin and all future ATB coins. Just not worth the trouble.
It's not one sale yet?
I honestly didn't see much of a slowdown in the website coming this time around. I'll wait an hour or two so I can order at my leisure. These will last at least two weeks like the others.
Site sluggish.
Order finally went through @ 12:09
Order Number: 376064XX
very sluggish
12:11 Oder # 376075xx
yeah....sluggish
12:09 Oder # 376068xx
400 +/- sales per minute. i can see why it's sluggish!
it took me thirteen minutes to get one.
It seems the Mint doensn't allow a different shipping and billing address to be entered for this?
Anyone?
mines in....376086xx
COOL !!
My order is suspended !!!
I will say this was my favorite design from 2010! I'm hoping for an early sell out. We can all hope can't we...lol
Order #376098xx at roughly 12:20
Order Number: 376110XX
@ 9:22am
Next stop: The casino in order to make up the 285 bucks I just spent!
Order #376062xx at 12:06
My order is suspended too?
wtf??
System is so sloooow!! Got my order in:
376118XX
Yeah!
At 9:30 site was running normal. No wait for order.
Got through quickly : 376127xx at 12:37 ET
Looks to be about 6K orders / 30 mins
What's the appeal of these 5oz quarters? Aren't there better ways to invest in 5oz of silver without paying $100 premium? Do you guys think the graded coins are going to see a huge jump in numisatic value? How are you going to store them? Are you mostly quarter collectors that just like the designs? Just trying to understand all the excitement.
My order just went from suspended to 'on hold', now with the option to cancel.
my order is 376129xx
37613XXX
order #306070xx around 12:14pm. It took a whole 14 minutes to get through, but no interuption.
Sight was slightly sluggish for me. I got on at 12 noon and finished the order at 12:14.
I used to get the one ounce gold and platinum proofs. Just way too expensive this year.
I'm just getting 2 sets (one through my cousin )of the 2010 P ATBs instead. I like the designs, concept (national parks), public interest, low mintage, and affordability of it. I think the 2010s will be winners.
"What's the appeal of these 5oz quarters? Aren't there better ways to invest in 5oz of silver without paying $100 premium?"
I have this hobby for two purposes:
1) As an investment, and
2) as one interested in coins.
Purchasing collectible US Mint coins is a means of addressing both of these purposes. The bullion aspect of the purchase meets my investment requirement. Additionally, I am willing to pay a premium for numismatic enjoyment (higher theoretical quality and uniqueness).
That's my story anyway...
placed order at 1.00pm went through fast as lightning...demand falling fast
I just ordered mine went right through very fast !
#376134xx
never saw it that fast
overall average after about 50 minutes 150/min
the last posts indicate 500 sales over 14 mintutes or a rate of 36/min
Started at 12:02 and got confirmed order number 376104xx at 12:20, but I left to make lunch a few times while waiting so it might have gone faster if I watched it.
"What's the appeal of these 5oz quarters?"
As the biggest coins ever made by the US mint with interesting designs and significant precious metal content they are just cool to hold and behold.
And when the old fogey collectors discover them and realize they can see them without a magnifying glass they will skyrocket in value! (HA!)
I like the 2010 and 2011 bullion ATB coins too. If you buy the 2011 bullions at the right spot price, the average of P and bullions is much better. The american coins beat the canadian and sustralian 5 ounce by several hundred dollars apiece.
I'm in for Yosemite, waited for the rush to pass, ordered about 12:40pm, an actually, the website was pretty fast, less than 2 mins to checkout! Order #37613XXX
This is burning a hole in my wallet. How many weeks off do I have before the release of the next ATB?
They have to release two more of the 2010 ATBs and I would think they would release the five 2011 also within this year. So seven more to go in about 6 months - or probably one every three to four weeks. OUCH!
The fact that ordering was so quick today probably represents significantly reduced demand for ATB P's and not a system upgrade of the US Mint website. Just like the First Spouse series, a very limited and shrinking number of people are interested in acquiring a full set of these.
I for one will not be getting the remainder 2 in the series and the 2011s
No way will I buy this "two-bit" coin...
Olive Oil
I was on national guard duty and my wife spent the ATB's at the laundrymat. It took two of them to get the dryer to spin, but don't ask me how she got them in the slot.
Shutzk-up, Olives!
Popeye
it should be 10,000 order right now.
Dun think anyone is interested in this Yosemite issue.
Perhaps, the only good catch is the first Hot Springs which I already missed.
I just got 5 of those Yosemite!
it is very hard to get a set of 5 pc 2010p collector's series 5 oz silver coins. because the sales of these coins were scatter around collectors.
Why do you wanna get the whole 2010 set? Dun think they will trade at a much higher premuim in future above bullion
I don't agree with the people here saying sales of Yosemite are going to be slower than the first two. If there was going to be a big sales slowdown, I think it would have happened with Yellowstone. It's clear there is a built-in base of support for the 2010 set. We might see a sales slowdown for the 2011s, though some of the designs for 2011 are really great (I love Gettysburg, Vicksburg, and Chickasaw) and may at least maintain the current pace of buying if not increase it. Plus we might finally see price reductions for the 2011s.
The slowdown problems on the Mint's website for this release actually lasted a little longer than Yellowstone's problems did, so I think sales are probably about the same as the first two coins.
In other news, my platinum eagle finally arrived (though I had to sell some of my silver stash to afford it). Wow, what a beaut this one is. I would never have bought it without this blog, thanks Michael.
it is very hard to get a set of 5 pc 2010p collector's series 5 oz silver coins. because the sales of these coins were scatter around collectors.
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I think that is incorrect. I believe that the same people are buying them but that interest is now decreasing.
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Yeah, I sure hope silver reaches the $100+ per ounce some keep preaching it will, just so I can sell these profitably!
I'll finish what I started with the 2010 set, but I seriously doubt I will pursue the 2011's or beyond. I'll keep an eye on their sales figures though, and if it looks like more low-mintage First Spouse-type situations brewing, I will most likely buy some of the later ones too.
The only people buying the Yosemite are the ones already in HS and YS; so yes dun think there's new demand out there for this 5 ozers..... they most likely won't sell for much above bullion once people realize the real lack of demand on these.
"dun think " Yes, we know you don't. Please no more ignorant posts on this site. You have no idea what you're talking about. Have you checked the secondary market? Do you see what they sell for, especially collectors like me who have them graded by PCGS?? You're probably someone who can't afford them and then makes silly comments to make yourself feel better.
comm'on guys, it's just 300 USD, anyone can afford the 5 ozer. The question is will there be enough demand to push the price higher from here?
btw, having Mint issued coins graded is a waste of money for true collectors imo.
LOL.
Buy or dun buy; but NEVER grade these suckers!!
Anyone with a new order number to post?
"btw, having Mint issued coins graded is a waste of money for true collectors imo."
True, except for older numismatic pieces. Fake Morgans and $2.50 Gold Eagles are everywhere. But I like the modern stuff in the original packaging.
The only argument I can make for grading them is the serious potential for fakes from China to appear a few years from now. Did you see their new stealth fighter?! Can someone say industrial espionage?! Having them graded and slabbed will guarantee authenticity to go along with the original packaging. This is good for those who pass it along to their children or purchase them as investments to cash in on years from now.
A reent article by JPMorgan said that there will be a lot of demand on US treasury from emerging market since they have ~1T reserve last year. These reserves have no where to go but to buy AAA treasury bond. So relax, the silver price is going to go up since we are going to accumulate more debt to help the global economy. A year from now you will be smiling.
my order # is 376213xx. now it is 15,000 order.
I just placed phone order # 376219xx.
Hi Michael,
I am reading all these posts from speculators.
As in the past, can you please post the actual first-day sales in tomorrow's column?
You're the best.
I will see if I can get those numbers and post if available.
Looks consistant to me. maybe 17k today and sell-out in 2-3 weeks. Easy money! There will be premiums for these. The only question is how much. My money is safer in these than in the stock market!
I agree. It's a no brainer. Whoever sits this out on purpose will be sorry.
At 5:30 est my order number is 37624XXX.
@ June 9, 2011 3:11 PM
Order number does not necessarily indicate the number of Yosemite coins sold.
If the difference in order numbers from 12 noon today to the current time was 50,000, it could be that 2 Yosemite coins were sold and 49,998 2011 proof sets were sold.
Each order gets a unique number, regardless if the order includes a Yosemite coin.
Who in their right mind would buy that many proof sets ?
I've never bot a proof set in my life.
Think about this....
Any coin with a US Mint mint mark with a mintage of 27,000 has got to be rare.
How many other coins - past or present - with a US Mint mint mark have such a low mintage. Not even recent proof sets, silver eagles, gold eagles, etc. can match those mintage numbers.....
So maybe this 5 oz is not exactly classified as a coin?
The US Mint considers it to be a coin - 25 cents face value. The US Mint advertises the P silver coins, such as the Yosemite one, as follows:
2010 America the Beautiful Five Ounce Silver Uncirculated Coin™ – Yosemite National Park, California (NP3)
The last post is inaccurate. All the burnished unc gold eagles from 2006-2008 are way below 27K mintage, except the 2006 1oz.
yosemite 18,000 order.
@ June 9, 2011 4:00 PM
Those gold coins are the exception, not the rule.
I started ordering at 12P and I got two in 20 minutes (15 for the first, 5 for the second). I think I will wait a half hour next time I order based of Yellowstone & this order.
It maybe a little late but somebody said that they had problems shipping to a different address (other than billing). I didn't have any issues, with this. I sent one to my condo’s office & one to my condo unit.
This is a new strategy for me because the last two times I sent one to my PO Box and one to the physical address. The coin sent to my physical address came UPS the other coin sent to my PO Box arrived 4-5 days later via USPS First Class. Also the coin mailed via USPS was shipped 2 days after the UPS coin in both cases. If you want fast delivery send it to a physical address.
2006w to 20011w AGE burnished uncirculated gold coins based on individual option mintage with box and c.o.a.:
2006w AGE
1 oz - 5,708
1/2 oz - 4,960
1/4 oz - 4,984
1/10 oz - 10,439
2007w AGE
1 oz - 11,602
1/2 oz - 4,451
1/4 oz - 5,762
1/10 oz - 15,497
2008w AGE
1 oz - 9,057
1/2 oz - 5,209
1/4 oz - 6,032
1/10 oz - 9,806
2011w AGE
1 oz - 2,851 not final.
I think long term the 2010-P's will be very profitable. AS someone said earlier, it took the UHR coin a year or two to achieve high premiums. Think about it..most people don't even know about the ATB quarters(you never see them in circulation) much less the 5 oz versions. Once the public becomes aware of these(and who knows when that will be...but eventually they will) then these low mintage 2010 ATB 5 oz coins (both the 33,000 bullion and 27,000 "P" coins) will become hot items! Get them at these prices while you can!
To: 3:44 PM
There are a lot of recent low mintage Gold Eagles (fractional proofs). Add in fractional Gold Buffalos, 1 oz Platinum Eagles and the FS coins. They all have mint marks and lower mintages than 27K.
If silver gets too high and the collector base falls, future years may also have low mintages. We'll have to wait and see.
After 2010 I will only keep the designs that I like unless the mintages drop like a rock later.
"There are a lot of recent low mintage Gold Eagles (fractional proofs). Add in fractional Gold Buffalos, 1 oz Platinum Eagles and the FS coins. They all have mint marks and lower mintages than 27K."
Yep, but no 5 oz cool looking silver coins that actually are affordable AND low mintage!
You are a fool if you actually believe these won't see nice premiums. I plan on keeping mine and not flipping them.
Better to have gold coin rather than silver coin...
Gold coins are much easier to store in the bank vault...
Goldfingers
My order number 37626XXX was placed at 8:05 est.
You can't compare low-mintage gold with low-mintage silver collector coins. They are like apples and oranges. Gold coins always sell in smaller numbers because they cost a lot more. For silver coins, the 2010 collector and bullion ATB's are very low mintage and will do well. Other than the 1995-W silver eagle and the 2008 reverse of 2007 silver eagle, these are the lowest mintage modern silver coins, as far as I know. You will regret not getting them years down the road. Remember there will be new ATB collectors later on who will want to get them, driving prices higher. Please stop worrying about the price of silver esp. if you collect the numismatic ATB's. Rising silver (over time) is just a bonus.
Wow, looks like close to 20k sold today.
Maybe the quickest sell-out yet!
I'm thinking 48 hour sell out and series taking off.
"There are a lot of recent low mintage Gold Eagles (fractional proofs). Add in fractional Gold Buffalos, 1 oz Platinum Eagles and the FS coins. They all have mint marks and lower mintages than 27K.
Yep, but no 5 oz cool looking silver coins that actually are affordable AND low mintage!
You are a fool if you actually believe these won't see nice premiums. I plan on keeping mine and not flipping them."
.... actually a lot of those coins were affordable when they first came out. That's why I flip, to pay for my holds.
Still a lot of people unaware about this series... Collector base has barely been reached by the US Mint.
Any late night order #s?
4:22 pm.
The numbers :
2006w to 20011w AGE burnished uncirculated gold coins based on individual option mintage with box and c.o.a.:
2006w AGE
1 oz - 5,708
1/2 oz - 4,960
1/4 oz - 4,984
1/10 oz - 10,439
2007w AGE
1 oz - 11,602
1/2 oz - 4,451
1/4 oz - 5,762
1/10 oz - 15,497
2008w AGE
1 oz - 9,057
1/2 oz - 5,209
1/4 oz - 6,032
1/10 oz - 9,806
2011w AGE
1 oz - 2,851 not final.
What are the 4-coin AGE sets for 06/07/08?
10:09pm 376274XX. My HS had a scrach on front looked like sideways v lots of nicks on rim I kept it because it was unlikely to be replaced by mint. Looked at my friends and he got one with a nick on washington's nose and also damage to the rim. Mint is having problems with this size coin.
Don't forget the 08-08-08 set with only 5,000+ or - sold.
That means just under 20k orders today so assuming maybe 3k orders for other stuff, 17k ATBs ordered. About the same as HS and Yellowstone. 2-3 weeks for sell out.
NGC Will Certify 2011 Silver Eagles Struck in San Francisco
The Mint must step in and stop this
If it does not have a S on it should not be graded as a S.
West Point has minted coins for Philly and they are not graded with a P.
This is wrong and I feel NGC is breaking laws
As someone suggested, the data posted earlier on 2006-2008 W AGE does not include 4 coin sets and the 8-8-08 set (Buffalo 1/2 and 08 1/2). The key point to know is 2008 W coins are the keys to the proof and burnished series except for the 1/2 ounce W where the 2007 is the key. If anyone has the correct figures for everything, please post and if possible give source. It is crazy that there is no good published source for this info. Thanks.
Here's accurate mintages for these AGEs.
http://goldeagleguide.com/mintages/
when you break up a set of 4 AGE and sell it individually or sell your 1/4 oz without box and c.o.a. then the price will be very much different. example apmex is selling 2007w burnished uncirculated with box and c.o.a. at $995.00. without box and c.o.a. at $829.00 each.
nowadays. with box and c.o.a. is very important.
modern commemorative silver dollars with box and c.o.a. quoted at CNN bid $35.00 ask $37.00. that's mean retail price is well over $40.00. but you can get those silver dollars at $32.00 each from apmex. simple the coin with plastic capsule only. see the different.
The coin to own is the 2008 W $10 1/4 ounce AGE with the lowest mintage of all AGE of 8,883. It is even lower than any of the fractional buffalo gold coins.
Looking forward to Michael's sales #s for the Yosemite ATB 5 oz coin. I think there will be increasing, not decreasing interest in the series. A years worth of ATBs will cost a collector less than a set of one FS, and the ATBs are much nicer to look at than any non-liberty FS (except a proof Julia Tyler).
If Yosemite sell under 15k on first day, series DOA.
If sales are between 15-20k, it will be fine.
If sales are over 20k, hold on to your hat!
It is the same 15-20K people buying them or having their friends and family buy for them as with the first two. The buzz on this series has plummeted and the flippers are worried.
@ June 10, 2011 3:50 AM
The coins to own are the later FS gold coins, most with mintages below 8,000.
I find it amusing that so many bloggers here love to speculate on what may or may not happen with US Mint offerings. In this particular case, it is amusing to read about the future of the ATB 5 Ounce Coins and how they will prosper or fail.
I will wait for the facts to surface, hopefully today, about the first-day sales of the Yosemite P coin. That should at least give us an indication of demand for this particular coin compared to the previous 2 offerings.
You couldn't give me a hideous looking Eliza Johnson, even if the total sales were 1.
Let's see, what do Americans want, mug shots of presidents wives or artwork on a large palate of silver depicting our national parks at affordable pricing. Run the numbers, ATB will be expensive, but doable. FS is too much $ for butt ugly Maggie, Eliza and co.
Abby Adams and Martha W. are hotties. Not!
Abby Adams and Martha W. are hotties. Not!
The UHR took a while for the public to learn about the product. Now the eBay sales are going to the general public at big premiums. I think ATBs will have higher premiums since dealers will only have limited supply.
To the person or people insinuating that proof coins with matte finishes or sandblasting aren't "real" proofs, see here: http://coincollecting.a-z-series.com/difference-between-a-matte-proof-and-a-sandblast-proof/
These kinds of proofs are just made with a different technique. The water vapor blasting is just an upgraded version of the ideas behind sandblasting.
One of the reasons why the UHR coins are hot is because of foreign investors/collectors wanting this one-of-a-kind coin. Overseas demand for this coin seriously, is high. The nice mahogany box helps market its appeal as well.
The 5 Oz ATB P series will probably sell slower over time as interest in them wane.
From a one day sellout; people are now adjusting and expecting a 2-3 wks sellout. Seriously, it's the same people bidding up and creating the false interest in themselves.
I'll look for other coins to collect this yr
Anon @ 5:46,
There was never any one day sellout of any of the two P coins. They have all been remarkably consistent, selling out in the 2-3 week range. The only one-day sellout was with the original shipment of bullion coins, on APMEX, due to the horrible distribution situation. Demand for the numismatic coins has been very consistent, and from what other posters are saying based on their order numbers, the Yosemite sales are going to be exactly the same as the Yellowstone and Hot Springs sales.
I'm not sure why there are so many people suddenly trying to "talk down" these coins, I don't remember these kinds of responses for the last two offerings.
For those interested in the 2008 W mintages here is Michael's post on it from a couple of years ago:
http://mintnewsblog.blogspot.com/2009/03/new-gold-eagle-key-dates.html
I have a set in OGP.
Those numbers were later adjusted and replaced with the final audited mintage figures found here:
http://goldeagleguide.com/mintages/
In my opinion the collector versions of the ATB do not even compare with the bullion version! The vapor blasting makes the coin look fake like it’s a piece of galvanized steel. The bullion version looks like silver and has much better aesthetic appeal. Yes the ATB P’s have a lower mintage, but honestly do they really look as good as the bullion versions….? With the P’s not as appealing it makes it more difficult to pay the extra premium for a vapor blasted piece of galvanized or zinc plated steel.
I think the P versions look fine. At least their finish seems to be consistent, unlike the bullion coins. Some look like proofs, while of those some look even MORE proof-like than others. Still others don't look like proofs at all. Too much variation there.
I still wish the Mint would mess up and use the P dies on some bullion versions, or use the bullion dies without the P on the "vapor-blasted" coins. That would give us something exciting to hunt for.
"This is wrong and I feel NGC is breaking laws"
No laws are being broken. Anyone can put a coin into any package they wish and hope some fool will pay more for it.
NGC is hoping there are a lot of fools out there and there probably are. PT Barnam said it best, "There's a sucker born every minute." A lot of them are paying high premiums for plastic on their coins.
The burnished gold eagles already have premiums. The sleepers are the 1/2 ounce bullion versions. Several have low mintages and some dealers are paying high premiums but other dealers don't look at dates and just treat all bullion alike. So if you are lucky you can find the premiums ones at bullion prices. Like at a coin show where a dealer just bought a bunch and didn't have time to check the dates.
The burnished gold eagles already have premiums. The sleepers are the 1/2 ounce bullion versions. Several have low mintages and some dealers are paying high premiums but other dealers don't look at dates and just treat all bullion alike. So if you are lucky you can find the premiums ones at bullion prices. Like at a coin show where a dealer just bought a bunch and didn't have time to check the dates.
It appears from http://goldeagleguide.com/mintages/ that the 2008-W 1/4 Oz burnished AGE mintage is actually 8,883 - which is lower than I expected. Anyone know what the value for this unit is in OGP?
$1,200 to $1,300
Looking at an auction price of $1.6M for one of the six proof pennies made in 1930, make me wonder if we could consider a mintage of 27,000 ATB coins as rare. Either you are a collector or ivestor, it may be a good time to buy silver. Whichever you blog you could made or loose money. Long term, the silver price is going to go up since paper money will loose value. Lets enjoy your appreciation of different coins.
27K mintage for a silver 5 oz is NOT RARE. It's definately low mintage thou'.
Hvving said that, 27K distributed evenly to 1 per household ensure anyone who wanted one got one;
I am not sure I could agree with you. There are many people who wants one but could not afford one. There should be lottery to give out some of the coins for free for the sake of social justice.
Don't forget that the 27,000 number is the authorized maximum mintage number.
Based on what I'm reading from bloggers here, you have to believe that some of the coins are defective and destroyed. So the actual number of coins that exist would be fewer than 27,000.
Any classic unique silver commemorative with mintages at 27k or less are worth typically 100X issue price and typically 100X silver content if in descent shape. Granted these are close to 70 years old on average, I know the ATB's will be winners with 27k mintages, just a matter of how much.
JBL
People that think they have something really special with these large bullion rounds need to keep watching HSN,COIN VAULT, At the coin show dealers were telling me the only offers they were getting was for spot .for p or no p issues
hahaha.... why dun you get me 20 of those 5 oz at spot price?
What's your email?
At buiilion spot, yeah, that makes sense..... I bet you have no clue what you are saying.
Anonymous said...
People that think they have something really special with these large bullion rounds need to keep watching HSN,COIN VAULT, At the coin show dealers were telling me the only offers they were getting was for spot .for p or no p issues
June 10, 2011 10:21 AM
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That is because the dealers want you (sucker) to sell your coins to them for spot or less.
A fool and his money will believe anything
"...There should be lottery to give out some of the coins for free for the sake of social justice..."
Don't make me puke, please. It's called hard work. People should try it. Then you can invest in one.
I'd love a Ferrari. Maybe there should be a lottery to to give some of the cars for free.
Anyone wanna sell me his 5 Oz ATB for bullion spot?
PM me. PLEASE. I can buy in large quantity.
Anon 11:32
You failed the test. Have some compassion before you join the tea party.
Have HSN plate them in 24k gold. They will be super rare.
Anon 12:07
YOU filed the test.
Have some compassion, and buy the guy a Ferrarri!
...Anon 11:32
You failed the test. Have some compassion before you join the tea party...
Help those who can't help themselves not those who won't.
China has already started production of the 50Z They must have been tipped off.
"There should be lottery to give out some of the coins for free for the sake of social justice"
Commie.
Already half the population pays no federal income tax, and many of those get government checks. Which is why our country is bankrupt. The gravy train is about over.
By the way, lottery is the biggest government rip-off of poor people. Did you hear Bill Gates ever bought a lottery ticket? Government took the poor people's money and give only about 30% back.
The way we'll get social justice is for everyone to work and not have some people supporting others.
That was just a test. Only five of you guys remotely qualified to join the tea party. I am disappointed. I will not be part of the blog anymore.
Please no more politics. Stay on message, or go to a political blog. I am not interested in your political views. This is what happened to the letters in Numismatic News. You right wingers keep sending in letters that have nothing to do with coins. Don't ruin a good blog.
I agree.. More coin talk less political BS! Imagine treasure hunting with your Garret or Whites detector and finding a 5oz'er lol... I can't imagine anyone could ever drop one and not notice lol
There are some interesting comments on this blog!
I like these coins and I'm in until I can afford not to be. I don't want to flip, I just appreciate them for what they are, a unique modern coin offering. I will collect and pass down to my son. If they gain in value, great. So much the better! If not they are still a valuable part of my collection.
This is what coin collecting is about. I showed my 10 year old son and his friend the HS-P coin the day it arrived. They examined it intently for a good while and still talk about today. That initial impression was priceless!
@ June 11, 2011 2:11 AM
You clearly are an immature man. You have a mind of a 7 year old. Grow up.
I pity you and your loved ones.
@ June 11, 2011 2:11 AM
You are a LUCKY man.
imagine 11 11 11; who would have strike that?
POP
The 5 Oz ATB prices seems to be dropping on Ebay
The IRS should let us deduct tax on the premiums we paid to the Mint.
Pop that zit: Pophead.
I just checked e-Bay closing prices and they have been very consistent, not dropping as some claim. All three collector issues sell for $350-400 regularly. But anyway if return on your money is what you really care about, be patient!! The coins were just released. You don't make money in coins overnight. It takes time.
For the 33,ooo 5oz issue there is 1 reg 5 coin set and 2 subsets with no mint mark. One is a 5 coin PL subset,and the other one is a DMPL subset. In the end these will have a much lower mintage than the 27,000 5oz with the p mintmark. We will just have to wait for the mint to come clean on the way these coin where made.There is no subset on the p mintmark vaporblasted issue of 27,000
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