The First 2009 Ultra High Relief Double Eagle Arrives
A member of Coin Network reports receiving the 2009 Ultra High Relief Double Eagle Gold Coin today!
Pictures of the coin were posted on Coin Network today February 9, 2009 at 12:03 PM. This is the earliest report of receiving the 2009 UHR that I have seen.
I have only seen one other report of the coin received in hand. There have been a few reports of credit cards being charged, which would indicate that coins have shipped. Many are continuing to report ever-fluctuating estimated shipping dates.
Some pictures of possibly the first 2009 Ultra High Relief Double Eagle Gold coin received (other than the US Mint and Smithsonian) are posted below. See more photos on the discussion thread.
Labels: Ultra High Relief
posted by Mint News Blog @ 3:50 PM
26 Comments:
In order to have a 1st Strike designation, the coin can't be taken out of the Mint box! Or am I missing something? I'm anticipating delivery sometime this week. I have 'in stock and reserved' but the cancel box is still there.
According to the PCGS website, in order to receive the PCGS "First Strike" designation, the coins must be submitted sealed in the post marked Mint shipping box.
Of course, if someone does not plan to submit their coins to PCGS they are free to open the package and enjoy the coins right away.
Thanks for clarifying the statement. That's what I meant, however, many people may not have understood the 'literally can't be taken out of the box'. Postmarked box is much better. Thx!
i ordered mine the first hour that day ,i've been move to the 20th of feb for shipping now,at first it was the 11th
Well, now my UHR and Book both show in stock and reserved. Also, the check box to cancel has been removed, so I guess I can assume (big assumption) that it's about to ship. We'll see...it changes every time I look at it.
P.S. I ordered about 45 minutes into the sale.
Michael,
For some of us numismatic novices, can you provide more information on obtaining PCGS grading for a coin? I find their website a bit confusing.
Thanks in advance!
An individual can submit coins to PCGS by submitting through a PCGS Authorized Dealer, or by joining the PCGS Collectors Club.
I personally think the second method is the easiest. You pay an annual fee and then have direct submission privileges to PCGS.
See more info here:
http://www.pcgs.com/join/
If you want to try to find an authorized dealer instead, PCGS lists their authorized dealers here:
http://www.pcgs.com/dealers/
On the other side of the fence, NGC has similar policies. For direct submission you can join their Collector's Society.
https://coins.www.collectors-society.com/join/Join.aspx
Hope this gives you enough information to get started.
Michael,
From the discussion above, it is necessary to NOT open a box that you wish to submit to PCGS. Is this the case for ALL PCGS submissions or just for specific categories of submission? Is there a timeline in which you must submit a coin to PCGS by for First Strike? For any submission in general?
Thanks.
Not opening the shipping box only applies if you wish to have special designations applied to the holder such as "First Strike" or in prior years "20th Anniversary Set."
PCGS and NGC will typically announce cut off dates and special instructions on their websites.
I haven't seen any cut off dates posted yet, but they are usually 30 days from the shipping date.
NGC's instructions: http://www.ngccoin.com/news/viewarticle.aspx?NewsletterNewsArticleID=556
PCGS doesn't seem to have a set of specific instructions for UHR yet, but for prior releases the information has been posted here:
http://www.pcgs.com/customer_service_update.chtml
I would never use PCGS or NGC. I think it is all a big rip-off, especially for uncirculated/proof coins ordered directly from the mint. Grading is very subjective, especially for proof/unc coins, and I never buy coins which are so-called "professionally graded". I find the holders ugly, the coins graded as such always have an extra, unwarranted price premium, and I don't like how the coins have to stay in the ugly holders. I never have and never will buy a "professionally graded" coin. I think it's all a big rip-off scheme thought up by dealers who are trying to make a fast buck off of gullible collectors.
I can understand your feelings on the matter. I was just curious as to how the whole grading thing works. I typically purchase ungraded coins, but do have some graded coins that I purchased at about the same price as I would have purchased an ungraded coin (otherwise I probably wouldn't have purchased them). That said, I can see the case made for designations/certifications such as for WTC coins, etc. that have no other method for distinguishing them from other coins. Plus, if there is a market for graded coins, they why not take advantage of it when the opportunity allows?
Thanks all for the input!
In stock and reserved for the coin and the book - I also have a $1206 charge on my CC, so I guess that is good news.
I ordered around 1:30 on the 22nd if you're trying to figure out timing.
The major grading services are a huge benefit to collectors of older rare coins. Buyers can have a relative degree of confidence when purchasing graded rare coins online or bidding at auction. I generally agree that there's little point in certification of modern coins that already come encapsulated from the mint as virtually every coin will grade at least 69 or better. The grading services do help weed out counterfeits, cleaned & problem coins, etc. It's not uncommon for more knowlegable collectors to cherry-pick rare coins, have them graded and sell them to another dealer at for a profit.
my ship date was pushed from 02/06 to 03/06 last week, then today it goes to into stocked and reserved and, my bank available balance dropped about the price of the coin. So...I expect it's shipping soon also.
yes I agree grading untouched Mint packaged coins is a hoax/waste, meant for speculators/dealers. Besides I like seeing them displayed in their display cases which, the US Mint has improved vastly the last couple of years. I would say any coin from the mint (unless obvious imperfections) is 69-70 anyway.
Hey there fellow coinaholics. I placed my order on the 22nd at around 12:30-12:40 respectively. I noticed yesterday that it says, "In process" on the mints site for my account. I haven't checked to see if my card was billed yet. Won't it show as "shipped" or have a tracking number if our order is in transit? I cannot wait to get my 2009 Ultra High relief. I will NEVER NEVER EVER SELL THIS COIN. I assure you, all of my coins will be sold and I will be buried with this coin! What a beautiful work of pure art. Truly the greatest little piece of gold on earth!
I 100% agree with the grading comments. It is a scheme. THey want a yearly subscription and want us to send them a coin that is fresh minted and never touched, as if to get their, "Blessing" that it is MS69-70. You know what......not happening. I have waited for this coin for a quarter century, and these guys as PCGS are never going to touch it. Why risk losing it in the mail, or having some "problem" with them at the grading site. No thank you. I can be trusted not to touch this coin, and assure you it will sit in my sealed high-grade safe for years. It will remain in MS70 forever. Thanks for the offer PCGS to take my coin and see it before me, but NO THANK YOU. This coin is mine and you can't see it.
Okay...This may be a good time to get some advice on how coin collectors typically store their booty. Does everyone leave their coin in the mint box for storage, or is is better to put the capsule-enclosed coin in a safe deposit box and pack the mint box? Are there better storage environments, etc.? Comments?
Personally, I've been putting my coins in a safe deposit box and storing the mint box in a trunk for safe keeping. I'm just curious what the norm is for the serious collectors.
Thanks in advance.
This might be a good topic of discussion to post on Coin Network. Consider starting a discussion thread at http://www.coinnetwork.com
Everyone might not still be following the comments here.
Personally, I store the coins in the Mint capsules in a safe deposit box. I put the empty Mint packaging in a box and store that in the closet.
My order was placed at 12:18 pm the first day. The status for the coin and book both show "In stock and reserved." I also have an outstanding order for the 2008 AE Unc. which also shows "In stock and reserved." Is it possible that the UHR is being held up so that it ships with the 2008 AE Unc. ship together?
In the past, the US Mint has shipped different items to me separately. So I don't think they would the UHR to ship with something else.
I'm with Michael on this one. I had a couple sets of 888s on order with my UHR and the 888s were shipped already. Just waiting for the mint to ship the UHR and I should be good (other than the new Lincolns).
PCGS grades the first 2009 Ultra High Relief Double Eagle gold coin an MS70
http://www.pcgs.com/articles/article_view.chtml?artid=5600&universeid=313
How could PCGS possibly grade the first UHR they see as an MS-70? How can they say that it is a perfect example when they have nothing to compare it to. This is proof of the grandstanding PCGS is notorious for. They are also trying to make it sound like this was the first coin received when they know that it wasn’t. To call it a "First Strike" is also misleading when then mint announced they had already strike 29,000 coins before they went on sale. That coin could have been the 28,999th coin struck. The "First Strike" label is a misrepresentation of what is in the slab. NGC's "Early Release" label is at least a much more honest description of what is in the slab. Also, the first UHR NGC graded was given a MS-69 which is more honest when you have nothing to compare it to.
i have a tracking 3 & shipment notification-the coin should be arriving any minute now, days after the mint's widely circulated shipping schedule. no pre-notification, only a shipment & tracking info email. i hope it meets my expectations.
I have begun to buy only mint and slabbed coins-that way, no dispute about the bu condition often used to haggle over price.
got it!
the coin is magnificent, better than the picture. the concave shape captures the light and reflects like no other coin that I have ever seen!
the box it comes in is spectacular, enhancing the expectations and apprehension like opening up a big christmas present. well worth the price and wait!!
Got it just after 9am today 2/27.
My 5 Lincoln Proofs came this afternoon. Good day.
5 Lincoln uncirculated should be tomorrow or Monday.
Haven't opened either the UHRDE or the Lincoln Proof boxes.
I'm not sure I want to slab this coin since I plan on keeping it. 7 days to decide.
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