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Saturday, March 26, 2011

2010 ATB Silver Bullion Coins Available


A few of the US Mint's authorized purchasers have just made their 2010 America the Beautiful Silver Bullion Coins available for purchase. This is likely in response to the US Mint requirement that AP's must sell their entire allotment of 2010-dated coins in order to be eligible to order the upcoming 2011 releases.

While previous sales by AP's have sometimes been complicated by requirements to call or place orders at a specific time or provide social security numbers, the latest availability is comparatively more streamlined.

Jack Hunt Coin Brokers is accepting orders at the site JackHuntATB.com. The price is $860.20 plus $88.00 shipping. Coins shipped to New York addresses are subject to sales tax and payments must be made by money order. The total cost is actually just a little bit higher than the spot price of silver. Ironically, these low mintage coins are one of the lowest premium methods to purchase .999 fine silver, while they last.

Update: A message on the website now indicates that the online store is sold out. More sets may be available after assessing inventory.

MTB has placed coins up for sale on eBay listed at $1,025 per set with free shipping. Their listings can be found under their username MTBcoins. The price is higher than JHCB, but I suppose they have factored in commissions and shipping costs.

Update: After selling 400 sets, in four separate listings, MTB has not put up another listing. That might be it from them.

For anyone who has been considering purchasing the 2010 America the Beautiful 5 oz. Silver Bullion Coins, here is an opportunity. In accordance with the US Mint's terms, each AP limits orders to one per household. Be sure to read the full conditions outlined by each seller and make sure that you comply and are eligible to purchase.

Update: Another AP, Coins N Things will be taking orders by phone Saturday, April 2, 2011 from 8:00 AM to 12:00 Noon. View their website for more information.

A few weeks back, they also accepted orders by phone for a brief period. Some readers reported that they were unable to get through despite calling repeatedly for the entire period. Those who did place orders were required to buy an additional amount of pre-1965 silver coinage to make the total price $1,100.

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At March 26, 2011 at 7:53 PM , Anonymous Ben said...

Through friends and co-workers, I managed to get five sets from MTB. The first person I talked to on the phone was a jerk and hung up on me, but the next guy was polite, patient and pleasant to deal with. They don't take credit cards, and they hold personal checks for an unbelievable 17 days.

The packages arrived in excellent condition, each coin was placed in a hard plastic case, inside a bubble wrap envelope, and each of those was taped to the inside of the box.

The coins were remarkably similar, three from each set were in proof-like condition, one of which had a bruise on the middle of Washington’s face. The other two had a deep satin luster, and one of those had either a scratch or a blemish of some sort.

I know other people have had bad experiences with MTB, but mine turned out pretty well.

 
At March 26, 2011 at 8:21 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Mine too. 3 were proof-like 2 were satin. 1 too had the blemish on the middle of Washington's face.

The guy I spoke to was miserable but who cares. I got my coins in good shape - well packaged and a smooth transaction.

 
At March 26, 2011 at 8:36 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

My set from MTB had two "proof-like" coins and three satin ones. Most exhibited minor blemishes common on bullion coins. But, at a price of only $930 or $37.20 per ounce, you can't really beat it. Especially with the rarity factored in.

Thanks a lot for this post, Michael! I was able to order a set from Jack Hunt because of the heads-up. $949 is only $37.96 per ounce, so once again another great deal! Thanks a bundle!

 
At March 26, 2011 at 8:41 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ha! All the flippers on eBay are being undercut big time!

Maybe the prices will come down as a result of this move, but I bet after they're all gone prices will ramp back up given the first year scarcity.

I already have 4 sets. Nothing like accumulating a 100oz for a tad over spot, especially with these "coins." We'll see how they do in the coming years.

 
At March 26, 2011 at 8:48 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

WINNING.. DUH!

 
At March 26, 2011 at 8:55 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

I don't get it. Why is MTB able to sell on ebay and why at that price? They were selling sets directly to the public with a phone call at $930 which met the Mint's guidelines. Are they having trouble ridding themselves of all of their sets and the mint okay'd the ebay sales?

 
At March 26, 2011 at 9:05 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'm glad I got to buy my set from MTB for $930. I'm also glad I got to buy a set from Jack Hunt tonight.

I was one of the lucky few who actually GOT to buy a set from APMEX on that first fateful night that started the whole mess. I was willing to pony up the $1,395 asking price. Actually, I sent them $20,949.95 for 15 sets, but as you know I ended up only getting to buy one for a much cheaper Mint-imposed price and received a refund of $20,070.05. Bummer, I would have rather had the coins! :)

 
At March 26, 2011 at 9:11 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

When you factor in the 10% ebay fees and 35 paypal fees, MTB is making less money on these sets than they were making when they sold them for $930 cash.

 
At March 26, 2011 at 9:13 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

MTB's ebay listing has officially sold out now - 100 sets sold at $1,025 each in a few hours.

I was one of the last people to get a set - go me!

 
At March 27, 2011 at 3:13 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sounds like the 1, 5 coin set per household does not apply to some who slammed and slammed the Mint and the APs.

 
At March 27, 2011 at 3:29 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

As far at the ATB fiasco has gone, I would grade each AP as such:

(A) A-Mark - Sold coins relatively quick, at fair price, and in best condition of any AP. 3 out of every 4 of my A-Mark coins is MS69 after regrading.

(B) MTB - Sold coins relatively quick, at fair price... no online ordering though (phone only), required annoying account setup forms, several weeks for shipping, and only accepted checks

(B) Fidelitrade - Sold coins relatively quick, at fair price... no online ordering though, required annoying account setup forms, several weeks for shipping, and only accepted checks

(C) Dillon Gage - slow selling coins, horrible communication

(C) Jack Hunt Coin Broker - extremely slow to sell any coins, horrible communication, horrible attitude towards customers, only accepts Money Orders - atleast they setup a website though

(F-) APMEX - Instigated the price gouging, only offered 1,000 sets to public - probably sold rest to CSN

(F-) The Gold Center - Only offered 600 sets to public, probably sold rest to CSN - only sold in person, no phone line or website

(F-) Prudential - only sold coins through a special phone line that was impossible to get anyone to answer when called

(F-) Coins N Things - price gouged, horrible communication, extremely slow to sell any coins, only sold through phone line that is impossible to get through to

 
At March 27, 2011 at 4:31 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

mtb on round 4 of 100 sets...sure would hate to be someone who bought sealed sets for moon money!

 
At March 27, 2011 at 4:54 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

"In accordance with the US Mint's terms, each AP limits orders to one per household."

Ben (First Post) - Thanks for showing us all how to work the system and get 5 sets from MTB. Good example to the YN's out there .. it's a free for all folks.

 
At March 27, 2011 at 5:30 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

I don't mind sending an money order, but the Jack Hunt site is a joke. The site isn't secure (i.e. https). You are just putting you name, address, email, and phone number onto the internet. As far as the MTB ebay auction, I don't do business with PayPal so I need a direct credit card purchase ability. I guess I'll just wait for the proof sets from the Mint, whenever that's going to be.

 
At March 27, 2011 at 5:37 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

I had my buddy buy this eBay set from MTB since I already purchased one a few weeks back.

Do these eBay purchasers need to fill out forms like I did? They let me leave my SS# blank. I had to send in identification. They let me cross out my driver's license number and picture. This way just my address was on it. I had no problem doing it.

 
At March 27, 2011 at 5:45 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

I refuse to purchase from MTB. They are rude obnoxious people. If you choose to do business with them, good luck! I have nothing but bad experiences with them. I have purchased a set from four other APs.

 
At March 27, 2011 at 5:47 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

I hope the Mint revokes MTB's AP status.

 
At March 27, 2011 at 6:43 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

This is risky business for them because they are selling for a price that violates the Mint's rules. I understand they padded the price a bit to cover fees, etc... but that is inconsequential to the buyer. The buyer is till paying that higher premium.

I'd love to know the TRUTH behind APMEX's reason for not selling these sets yet. I would also like the Mint to ask them that question too.

 
At March 27, 2011 at 7:20 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

1 means 1, what is wrong with some of you who are multiple buyers, attack the system, then mesh into it?

 
At March 27, 2011 at 7:33 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Coins 'N Things is also taking orders by phone on Saturday, April 2, 8am-Noon Eastern time. Their cost is $1100....$930 for the ATB set and $170 in pre-1965 silver coins. Payment is by check.

 
At March 27, 2011 at 7:38 AM , Blogger Mint News Blog said...

Thanks. Let me add that to the main post.

 
At March 27, 2011 at 7:40 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Does anybody know why MTB can sell the ATB sets on ebay for $1025 (not meeting US mint guidlines) when they were previously offering sets by phone/mail for $930 (meeting US Mint guidelines)? Michael?

 
At March 27, 2011 at 7:53 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

BTW, the phone # for Coins N Things is 1-800-258-7322.

I was able to get through to them when they took orders on 3/8/11. My check was cashed 3/15. I last spoke to them about 10 days ago and was told my coins would be shipped in about 10 days...so, if that is true, they should ship next week.

I must say though, I am disappointed in their lack of communication...I have not received a single e-mail from them...I only knew they had received and cashed my check by looking at my checking account online. However, when I have called them, they have been polite.

 
At March 27, 2011 at 7:56 AM , Blogger Mint News Blog said...

"Does anybody know why MTB can sell the ATB sets on ebay for $1025 (not meeting US mint guidlines) when they were previously offering sets by phone/mail for $930 (meeting US Mint guidelines)?"

I don't have any information on that. As others pointed out, after they pay eBay/paypal fees and shippping costs, they might net the same amount or less- even though buyers will pay more.

It's possible that they contacted the US Mint for permission to sell their allocation in this way, but I don't know.

Other AP's have imposed commissions, somewhat high shipping/handling costs, or required the purchase of other items. Maybe these methods were also cleared by the US Mint, but I can't confirm one way or another.

These companies are not set up to sell items to the public one at a time, and it is obvious that some are not enjoying the process.

At the end of the day, the prices are lower than secondary market sources and at least collectors have some level of access now.

 
At March 27, 2011 at 8:08 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

"...1 means 1, what is wrong with some of you who are multiple buyers, attack the system, then mesh into it?..."

We have every right to comment on the transaction experience we have had with the sellers. Heck, eBay lets you leave feedback based on your experience with a particular seller. So I don't understand your point.

Secondly, nobody here is violating any rules by owning more than one set. You are allowed to purchase one set from as many sellers as you can afford or get access to. If you had friends or families help out that is still not violating the rules since they too have the same right to buy one set.

We have every right since we are playing by the rules put in place by the Mint.

This is how I build and diversify my investment portfolio. I am going to get as many as I can afford following the one set one customer PER seller rule.

 
At March 27, 2011 at 8:16 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Any word on the release of the numismatic versions from the mint? Estimate of pricing?

 
At March 27, 2011 at 8:20 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

OK, lock up all you can, you know exactly what the Mint means, when it says 1 per household.

 
At March 27, 2011 at 8:26 AM , Blogger Mint News Blog said...

"Any word on the release of the numismatic versions from the mint? Estimate of pricing?"

Sorry still no info.

 
At March 27, 2011 at 8:45 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

March 27, 2011 8:20 AM
"...OK, lock up all you can, you know exactly what the Mint means, when it says 1 per household..."

Yes I do. I understand exactly what they mean. It's crystal clear.

They mean that EACH, and I quote, "Authorized Purchasers must establish and enforce an order limit of ONE coin of each design for each household."

That is exactly what we are doing. We are going to EACH Authorized Purchaser and buying ONE set.

Again, we are doing nothing wrong, nothing illegal, nothing that violates terms and conditions and nothing unethical.

We are simply following the Mint's rules that have been enforced by the AP's.

Don't get upset with me because I have 5 sets. Get upset with the mint which should have all the AP's coordinate with each other so each knows to whom they're selling to! This way you'll get your way and one household will get one set. Good luck with that!

 
At March 27, 2011 at 8:55 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Micheal, Do you know if whenever the Mint makes available the collector versions, if only one of a certain design can be purchased or if one has to buy all 5? Thanks for the update, great service to us all !

 
At March 27, 2011 at 9:55 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

This whole ATB 5 oz. coin issue is no different than society in general. There are those that go and get, and others who sit and wait. I too called MTB and was rudely scorned by a male who hung up on me. Undeterred, I called back 20 minutes later and talked to a nice woman who told me how to go about ordering a set. I also had a close friend order a set for me also. I sent in a money order to Jack Hunt to purchase another set this weekend. As mentioned by others, no rules were broken. Those with some initiative and plain know-how will find a way to get what they want. I have learned that nothing is given to you in this life, you have to go out and get it.

 
At March 27, 2011 at 10:13 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Wow! The comments died off when the MTB's sold out on Ebay!

 
At March 27, 2011 at 12:17 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

The Mint rules / guidelines stated that each AP could sell only one set to each household. It did not say that each household could buy only one set.

If that is what the mint had wanted, they would have made a separate guideline for the purchaser to agree to, like the one they have for the dollar coin programs. Some buyers were getting them just to get credit card points, and them depositing them in the bank.

I bought one ATB set from each AP, except the gold center (they sold 600 to the public, and sold the rest to private dealers like silvertowne > HSN etc).

I did not violate anyones rules, and I did not sell any of them. They are for me and my family to keep.

 
At March 27, 2011 at 1:52 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Thanks for the info, just ordered a set from Hunt.

 
At March 27, 2011 at 2:26 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anyone who ordered from Jack Hunt in the last 24 hours - what was your order number?

Mine was in the 500's, but I ordered on the first day.

I would just like to see about how many orders have been made. If they are selling all theirs to the public, they should accept atleast 3,300 orders.

 
At March 27, 2011 at 2:34 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

For all of you who missed the MTB set for $1025 on eBay, you can check out another great buy.

Check out item 190508705277.
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LOL :)

 
At March 27, 2011 at 3:12 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

2200's

 
At March 27, 2011 at 3:42 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

I have a question and any suggestions will be appreciated. i happned to place an order with hunts for ATB and my order number was in 600 but ufortunatly could not print the receipt as of every ting my 8 mont old daughter sat on the keyboard and everything hung up and I did not even get an email confirmation so..... I dont know. Thanks for any suggestions.

 
At March 27, 2011 at 3:47 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

At 9:30 am (pac. time) 3/27/2011 I was 203X.
Thanks for the info to buy!

When these things first came out, I was really excited. Just gota get those coins. At the price that apmex had, just had to pass. Really became a spectator after that, that is until today. It's funny how strongly (and quickly)the silver fever can come back.
I really only wanted to get the Yellowstone coin, now I will have 5 of em.

 
At March 27, 2011 at 4:17 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

I gave up on them.I was'nt going
to pay the big $$$s. I've been on
APMEX's list forever. Until I read
this post I was passing. Now my
orders in and I'm back in.
Thanks again for the heads up.

 
At March 27, 2011 at 4:22 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

I placed my order Friday night and got an order number in the high 900's.

I sent my payment Priority Mail with delivery confirmation Saturday morning first thing.

I live in Jersey so it should be there in NY State by Monday or Tuesday the latest.

 
At March 27, 2011 at 6:47 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Some people don't seem to understand that there was no rule that collectors couldn't buy more than one, only that the AP distributors could not sell more than one to a family. (So that they didn't cheat and sell them all to their friends.)

Think about a family where 2 brothers collect, or a father and son. They should not be banned from each buying one.

Collectors are free to buy from as many sources as possible and to have their friends and relatives buy some for them. Nothing illegal, immoral or unethical about that.

But the thing I wonder about is, with so many people here saying they bought a few how many actual collectors of these can there be out there? If the average person bought 3 sets, then only 1100 collectors bought them. ( I bought 8 some people say they bought 4 or 5, one guy hired people to stand in line and buy 50 or 100 for him.)

Thanks Michael for posting on this. It is the most exciting coin event in a long time. Even if the Mint screwed up royally, the 1100 true collectors did well, and mostly because your readers told each other who was selling!

 
At March 27, 2011 at 8:10 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Michael, thanks for an intelligent series of insightful ATB 5 oz. articles, would love to know at mint forced the APs into selling exactly if they were the US Mint. The process or debacle if you will is as fascinating as the coins themselves. Medium and institutional investors have been shut out on the 2010s, and these coins are tailor made for their portfolio types, particularly the precious metal diversifiers. Once the restrictions are lifted on Gettysburg and onwards, it'll be open season on these first year issues as completists that missed out will want a set and be able to pay a heavy premium. 33,000 vs a minimum of 125,000 for the 2011 issues. The textbook case of how NOT to sell and market a coin. If I were studying economics, this travesty would be a perfect research topic!

 
At March 27, 2011 at 8:25 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Just ordered from Jack Hunt.

Order # 238x

Thanks for the heads up!

 
At March 27, 2011 at 8:33 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

I was ALMOST going to buy a set of these after this post, and then I realized what else I could get with nine bills, and I decided that, to me, these just aren't worth it, and I don't want to get locked in to buying this whole set. I get more satisfaction from having a set with mostly commons and a few rares, than just the rares. I can't be the only one.

 
At March 27, 2011 at 9:27 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'm at 242x. I wonder when the cutoff is going to be. Would they sell their whole allotment on their site?

 
At March 27, 2011 at 10:29 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

#245x

Thanks for the article :)

 
At March 27, 2011 at 10:31 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Please remember that it may take up to 6 weeks before your order ships via FedEx Ground. Thanks you for your order!!!

I know this is just a disclaimer but I sure hope it does not take any longer than 1-2 weeks max after receiving payment.

 
At March 27, 2011 at 10:39 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

245x

 
At March 27, 2011 at 10:55 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

#2470

 
At March 28, 2011 at 1:26 AM , Blogger astroguy said...

I ordered much earlier this morning, order in the high 1900s. I'll ship the MO when I get up and head next door to the post office. I hope I don't have speculator's remorse ...

 
At March 28, 2011 at 4:42 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Wow, all of a sudden people are thrilled about the ATB discussion! I remember people complaining about it here and there was to much of it. I betcha half those people were sore losers until they read the post here that they can score it from two sources at once!

Woohoo! My Jack Hunt payment is out for delivery today according to USPS tracking. 5th set baby, come to poppa!

 
At March 28, 2011 at 4:44 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

astroguy,

Don't worry, the only way you could lose on this deal is if the spot price of silver completely tanks.

 
At March 28, 2011 at 5:00 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

2011 Native American $1 Coin 25-Coin Rolls on sale today at noon!

 
At March 28, 2011 at 6:45 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

La dee da, my direct ship rolls will be delivered any day now.

$39.95 + $4.95s/h for $25? Nah.

 
At March 28, 2011 at 7:17 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

I ordered mine 3/28/11. Order # is 25xx Thanks.

 
At March 28, 2011 at 7:37 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

25xx That is for ATB 5oz coins from Jack Hunt Coin Broker - not the Native American Dollar rolls.

 
At March 28, 2011 at 9:12 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Not sure why, but I am always leery of someone only accepting money orders for payment. Credit cards are much more secure and the Jack Hunt site doesn't appear to. Hmmmm. Anyone else feel this way?

 
At March 28, 2011 at 9:20 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

3% of $3,131,700 =$94,000.That maybe why.

 
At March 28, 2011 at 9:27 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ordered two sets (one for me and one for my son), so I know I am violating the household rule but I don't intend on flipping these.

First silver purchase ever. Hope I am not too late to the game, better late than never.

At $950 or so per set, it's basically the same cost as generic rounds or bars right now. Any scarcity on these first ones is only upside, so it seemed like a good first buy....

 
At March 28, 2011 at 9:31 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

JHCB

Our online store is currently 'Sold Out' of ATB sets. We may have more sets available after assessing our inventory. Check back to our site periodically for updates.

 
At March 28, 2011 at 9:33 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

I don't have a problem with the money order. They are authorized as a seller by the mint. Call me naive, but I don't think they're going to ruin their business over this. The swift arm of the law will rain down if they scam us. Third, the website form although not secure, does not require any non-public information to be entered like your SS number, credit card number, driver's license number, etc... I don't have a problem with my publicly available information being plugged into a form on the Internet.

There are dozens of database websites that have your information that can be accessed by anyone. For those of you who are concerned, little do you know, your information is already everywhere on the Internet.

It took me 3 months and working with the company Reputation.com to have everyone of those databases remove my information. I did it because I am the only person in the United States with my name.

 
At March 28, 2011 at 10:05 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

So they cut off accepting any more orders, and the highest order number reported was in the 2500's... that's a little stange.

They should have 3,300-3,700 sets to sell to the public.

 
At March 28, 2011 at 10:23 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

I have an order number of 27??

 
At March 28, 2011 at 10:28 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Thanks for the heads up Michael! I was waiting for the mint's uncirculated Coins but after debating it I figured I could not pass up the price. I managed to get a set before JHCB sold out.

 
At March 28, 2011 at 10:35 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Who's planning on trying to call Coins N Things this Saturday morning?

 
At March 28, 2011 at 10:42 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Looks like Fillmore proof, Buchanan unc and the Lincoln are the only Spouse options left. A new bill in congress could make the Lincoln the last of the series.

 
At March 28, 2011 at 11:06 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

http://www.jackhuntatb.com/ is back online and selling more coins

 
At March 28, 2011 at 11:21 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'll be calling Coin'N'Thing on 4/2/11. I want to see if I get a second set of the 5oz ATB. I ordered one at JH and was in the mid 800's. I should have bought MTB when it was on ebay for 1025, but I though it was a little to high for some reason. That was my second mistake when it comes to buying the ATB. The first was passing up APMEX sale. O'well, just hope I get my bullion coins soon.

 
At March 28, 2011 at 12:22 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

What new bill in congress?

 
At March 28, 2011 at 12:43 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Interested to see sales for first spouse since not much being offered. Seems odd that no 2011 issues yet and 1st q 2011 over this week! I guess even if there is no official change from congress, there are no minimums stated (as far as I know).

-JBL

Of course no numismatic 5 oz coins offered yet either.

 
At March 28, 2011 at 12:45 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Don't forget Fiedlitrade is still accepting orders. I just got my e-mail confirming. They are now processing it for shipment in 3 - 4 weeks.

 
At March 28, 2011 at 12:56 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

JCHB:
Our online store is currently 'Sold Out' of ATB sets. We may have more sets available after assessing our inventory. Check back to our site periodically for updates.

 
At March 28, 2011 at 1:05 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

http://www.fidelitrade.com/ apparently has some sets left that they are selling for $929.20

 
At March 28, 2011 at 1:37 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Fidelitrade probably has sets left because their purchase procedure is so intrusive. I won't buy one from them because you have to tell them your life story (and provide your SS#). For me, that's a big no-no.

Besides, the money to be made in reselling the coins is pretty small right now. $200-$300 bucks additional profit is not worth the risk of identity theft. A lot of people must feel the same way, or else those sets would have sold out long ago.

 
At March 28, 2011 at 2:06 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Making a 25%-30% profit sounds good but its very risky to give your SSN...I'm also passing on it. I got a set earlier from JCHB

 
At March 28, 2011 at 3:07 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Why is everyone so interested in the 5 oz ATB bullion coins from dealers? I am waiting for the US Mint to sell the same coins. As far as I am concerned, these coins will be worth much more when I flip them...

 
At March 28, 2011 at 3:16 PM , Anonymous VG said...

Hunt probably cut orders a little early to see how many people actually send in their money orders to pay for the sets. I'm guessing after the seven days pass required to pay, they'll put the remaining coins on sale. Just my opinion.

 
At March 28, 2011 at 3:59 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Does anyone know how Jack Hunt will be packaging the coins? If I will have to buy air tites, I would like to know ahead of time.

 
At March 28, 2011 at 4:03 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

better buy air-tites...says will be shipped in bubble envelopes inside shipping box

 
At March 28, 2011 at 4:16 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

What's going on with no '11 First Spouse offerings? Is the series continuing?

 
At March 28, 2011 at 5:15 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Michael,

I just want to express my appreciation for your blog. Over the past couple years, you have allowed me to get some coins I would likely not have known about or would have had to purchase at higher prices on the secondary market. You truly do provide an invaluable service to collectors. Thanks again!

-joe

 
At March 28, 2011 at 5:32 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

2011 American Eagle Gold Proof Coins on sale 4/21/11.

 
At March 28, 2011 at 6:18 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Why is everyone so interested in the 5 oz ATB bullion coins from dealers? Because they are cheaper, getting these at or close to spot price minimizes the risk.

 
At March 28, 2011 at 6:21 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Woot! Just checked my tracking number. Jack Hunt received my payment today at 10:35am! I've got my Air-Tites ready and waiting.

 
At March 28, 2011 at 6:32 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Fidelitrade also said they would only be placed in bubble wrap, but they were sent in airtites and bubble wrap. Nicely handled and packaged, but now I have an extra set of airtites.

 
At March 28, 2011 at 6:33 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Shoot! It looks like I just missed out. Hunt got my payment at 10:42 a.m. Was this an inside job by the above post? :-)

 
At March 28, 2011 at 6:35 PM , Anonymous VG said...

To Anonymous March 28, 2011 6:32 PM

Did you fill in you SS# on the form to Fidelitrade? A little reluctant to do that. With all that info, someone can have a field day with your identity. How did the coins look??

 
At March 29, 2011 at 3:37 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

2011 American Eagle Platinum Proof Coin available 5/26/11.

 
At March 29, 2011 at 4:13 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Did i make a mistake buying a ms69 set of the atb 5oz. coins i paid 1495.00 with free shipping.

 
At March 29, 2011 at 4:23 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Pop, pop, pop!

 
At March 29, 2011 at 5:22 AM , Blogger dawson said...

i would still like to meet one of those guys that paid $6000.00 at the start for one of those sets

 
At March 29, 2011 at 5:43 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

"i would still like to meet one of those guys that paid $6000.00 at the start for one of those sets"

Why? Just to rub it in? Everyone makes stupid mistakes...

I was going to skip this set altogether until this blog indicated I could get the set at a relatively reasonable price. I ordered one set just to have some 5 oz. silver coins.

That said, I've made stupid purchases or "non" purchases that I've regretted. I was fortunate enough to not have classless people wishing they could insult me because I was stupid (or they were "smarter" than me). Most people have better things to do than wallow in someone else's pain.

 
At March 29, 2011 at 5:48 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

As far as giving your SS# to Fidelitrade; plenty of other insitutions already have it. The federal/state/local governments, the IRS, your bank, mortgage company, financial advisor, credit card companies, doctors' offices, hospitals that you've been treated in, your employer, your health/auto/homeowner/life insurance companies, your pharmacist, credit agencies, etc... The list goes on and on.

You know how vulnerable those are? Not to mention that your information can be purchased in two seconds for a few bucks on the Internet from one of many legally run websites.

If you read the "About Us" on Fidelitarde's website to learn about where you're sending your money, you'll see they're no fly by night corporation and fall into the realm of financial institutions similar to places where you already have accounts that contain your social. Your social is no more secure or not with them than with the others I listed above. In fact I bet it might be safer than many of them.

Just my $.02

 
At March 29, 2011 at 6:33 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

I agree everyones # is everywhere.
But you still have to be very careful with it. I just don't understand why they need it for the purchase of this set.

 
At March 29, 2011 at 7:14 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

What if the mint decides not to issue the other 27,000 ATB coins?????!!

 
At March 29, 2011 at 7:37 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

I wouldn't be surprised if the value of a set of the 5 2010 ATB's will cross 6k in a few years. You win or you lose - coin collecting is still fun!

 
At March 29, 2011 at 8:30 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

I just wish the Mint would hurry up and determine the release date for the Eliza Johnson coins. I don't know how much longer we can go without another price increase on gold coins. We're safe this week, but the price swings have been pretty big these past few weeks.

 
At March 29, 2011 at 10:00 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

I heard on (HSN) the 2010 set of 5oz ATB is the first and last year for the 3" Dia. coin. All future coins will be 2 1/2" Dia. Does anyone know if this is true?

 
At March 29, 2011 at 10:00 AM , Blogger John said...

Michael, I also wanted to express thanks for your timely and informative blogs. I also have made some nice purchases because of them including my recent order from jack hunt. I had checked that site daily and had given up on it. I also totally agree with the blogger who graded the AP'S I feel the same way about them. I just don't believe that this was that difficult an item to sell retail.

 
At March 29, 2011 at 10:03 AM , Blogger John said...

From everything I have read the mint said that since they have made the capital investment on producing 3 in diameter coins that they were going to keep them at the size.

 
At March 29, 2011 at 10:10 AM , Blogger Mint News Blog said...

"I heard on (HSN) the 2010 set of 5oz ATB is the first and last year for the 3" Dia. coin. All future coins will be 2 1/2" Dia. Does anyone know if this is true?"

The US Mint has confirmed that the diameter will remain 3 inches.

 
At March 29, 2011 at 10:56 AM , Blogger Andrew said...

Did you guys get confirmation from Fidelitrade in anyway that your order was accepted? Did they email you anything or a tracking number by chance? Thanks

 
At March 29, 2011 at 11:03 AM , Anonymous CraigL said...

For those of you who got in on MTB's eBay auction -- I had some correspondance with them this morning when I requested confirmation my payment was receieved. Here's what I got back:

==
Yes we have received your payment. We are presently processing the orders and should begin shipping orders once we verify that the purchase requirement in our listing were met.
==

Will be interesting to see how long their verification process takes!

 
At March 29, 2011 at 12:26 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

As far as giving your SS# to Fidelitrade; plenty of other institutions already have it...The issue is that these companies need the SSN some by law. Why does Fidelitrade need your SSN to buy some coins? Its a personal choice and some people are not comfortable giving it out. On a side note I never heard of a pharmacist or financial adviser needing a SS#

 
At March 29, 2011 at 4:28 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Can anyone who has purchased the ATB 5 oz. coins from Fidelitrade PLEASE post as to how the coins looked and what condition they came in???

 
At March 29, 2011 at 4:43 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

I picked up a set from FT in their first round. While the bubble bags aren't great the coins are actually in very good condition. No overt PL or DMPLs though.

 
At March 29, 2011 at 5:47 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'd rate my Fidelitrade set as average. Amark's were nicer. APMEX about the same as Fidelitrade, maybe slightly nicer.

 
At March 29, 2011 at 7:07 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

My Fidelitrades set was very nice with what I'm sure will be a couple DMPLs and a couple PLs. There was a little rim nick on one. My guess is all will be 68s or 69s. My Apmex were very nice with a couple PLs and a tiny mark or two just on the clear area inside the rim on two of them. My Amarks were all nice with great problem free surfaces but definitely didn't have PL surfaces, too many polish lines. I believe what you get is simply luck.

 
At March 30, 2011 at 1:13 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Does Fidelitrade put their ATB coins in air tite capsules?

 
At March 30, 2011 at 2:18 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

I wouldn't like having to keep looking at the websites for the cheapest prices of ATB 5 oz. Got better things to do. Although I can't afford them, I think buying at the auctions is more expensive but saves hassle.

BTW, about pennys quan mntd...

1794 918,000
1797 897,000
1931-S 866,000
1877 852,500
1807 829,000
2009 satin 747,000
1909-S VDB 484,000

The 2009 95% copper satin is rarer than the 1794, 1797, 1931-S, 1807 and even the 1877. Gonna try to get ahold of a few of these.

 
At March 30, 2011 at 3:54 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

I would hate to say it but i think most ap's have gone through and already picked out the very best of the coins it's who you know???

 
At March 30, 2011 at 4:13 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

I agree. This coming Saturday you can get on the phone for picked over seconds!

 
At March 30, 2011 at 4:49 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

37.57 silver -37.96 atb = 39 cents over melt,not bad.

 
At March 30, 2011 at 5:09 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

The AP's must be having fits selling so low.

 
At March 30, 2011 at 6:41 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yeah, but they shouldn't have waited so long to sell them. The Mint's requirements were not rocket science!

 
At March 30, 2011 at 6:58 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ya,and they tied up some bucks for 3 mos. and did'nt make anything on it. They got beat by their own greed.

 
At March 30, 2011 at 7:19 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

APs spent months cherry-picking the inventory.

 
At March 30, 2011 at 8:25 AM , Blogger Andrew said...

Regarding Fidelitrade. The reason they need your social security number is because you are setting up an account with them. You can either take delivery of your silver or they can hold it for you. Like a brokerage firm.

 
At March 30, 2011 at 11:08 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hmmmm....yes it's possible that the APs are cherry picking; however, since they have to sell all their sets how do they account for the missing coins they cherry picked?

 
At March 30, 2011 at 2:52 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Even if they're picked through, who cares? Given the spot price of silver and the price point of the coins, you're making out extremely well in regards to a bullion purchase.

All the other details that come with the coin which add to their premium on the secondary market is a bonus.

 
At March 30, 2011 at 3:06 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

fidelitrade sends a email when paperwork is received, then another one saying it was accepted and approved. now i'm waiting for check to clear and email with shipping confirmation

 
At March 30, 2011 at 3:29 PM , Anonymous Andrew said...

I placed my order with Jack Hunt on Monday and overnighted my payment (postal money order). It was received around 11am... has anyone received confirmation that your order was accepted and you will receive a set of ATB bullion coins? Thanks

 
At March 30, 2011 at 4:17 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

My payment was received too back on Monday at Jack Hunt according to USPS tracking. They indicated they received a couple hundred envelopes when mine arrived after I inquired. I can imagine all the envelopes they'll be receiving. I'm sure once they're sorted we'll get an update.

When I sent my check to MTB, I heard nothing (check deposited) and then like 4 weeks later the UPS man arrived with them.

 
At March 30, 2011 at 4:18 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

I guess fedex will give notifiation of delivery
sometime within the next
6 weeks.

 
At March 30, 2011 at 4:28 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Does Fidelitrade put their ATB coins in air tite capsules or do they ship them raw?

 
At March 31, 2011 at 4:37 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

What would be interesting would be to have a compilation of how each AP ships their coins (e.g., airtites or not, etc.). Then we could purchase airtites ahead of time if needed.

 
At March 31, 2011 at 12:25 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Does Fidelitrade put their ATB coins in air tite capsules or do they ship them raw?

 
At March 31, 2011 at 1:25 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey, how about those new Andrew Johnson Presidential Dollar Coin Covers!

 
At March 31, 2011 at 3:16 PM , Blogger John said...

Fidelitrade sends them raw in bubble wrap (no capsules).
I actually got nicer coins from them than MTB even though MTB had used capsules. I think it is just luck of the draw.

 
At March 31, 2011 at 3:53 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Fidelitrade sent their first batch in bubble wrap.

The later sets ARE in CAPSULES...so if you are waiting on a set, don't buy extra capsules.

 
At April 2, 2011 at 1:01 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Got into CNT after about 12-15 busy calls this morning. I started calling around 10AM EASTERN. Got one!

As mentioned, they make you get $6 face of junk silver along with your order, for a total of $1100.

What does $6 face of junk silver sell for? Did I get ripped-off?

Thanks!

 
At April 3, 2011 at 12:14 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

The first sets sent out by Fidelitrade were in bubble pack, A recent one came in airtites. (I bought extras through my sisters.)

 
At April 4, 2011 at 6:48 AM , Anonymous Andrew said...

Woohoo... received my FedEx (ground) confirmation this morning that my coins have been shipped today from Jack Hunt!

 
At April 4, 2011 at 6:57 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Received my notification (and fedex tracking number) from Jack Hunt as well this morning. Should have it in a few days.

 
At April 4, 2011 at 6:58 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Question is: How are Jack Hunt's coins shipped? Do they come in airtites or not? Anyone know?

 
At April 4, 2011 at 10:38 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

I too got my Jack Hunt confirmation today --- Whoo Hoo

 
At April 4, 2011 at 10:42 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Help me with the math here...

I paid $949 for 5 5oz Coins or 25 Oz

That is $38/oz

Spot is $38.45 on Kitco today...

Did I just buy 25 Oz of sliver for $12 or so UNDER Spot?

 
At April 4, 2011 at 12:19 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

That would be correct...for the total order; not per ounce.

 
At April 4, 2011 at 1:14 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sweet! Received my fedex tracking # too this morning :)

 
At April 5, 2011 at 5:49 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

hunts coins come raw, each in individual bubble envelope

 
At April 5, 2011 at 12:14 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Buzz Kill!

IMPORTANT NOTICE FROM JACK HUNT COIN BROKER REGARDING FedEx SHIPPING CONFIRMATION NUMBERS

PLEASE READ THIS ENTIRE EMAIL

You are receiving this notice because you recently ordered a set of America the Beautiful 5 oz Silver Coins (ATBs) from Jack Hunt Coin Broker Inc (JHCB).

FedEx sent an email yesterday to each of our ATB customers with a shipping tracking number that stated that orders will ship Monday, April 4th.


THIS IS INCORRECT!!!


While some orders will ship this week most will not and will go out within the next four weeks. Retain the tracking number you received from FedEx, this will be your tracking number. You will be able to periodically check to see when your order does ship. You will not receive an email from either FedEx or JHCB when your package is in transit.

Note The Following:

1. The email from FedEx is in no way a verification that your payment was received. IF PAYMENT WAS NOT RECEIVED YOUR ORDER WILL NOT SHIP.

2. The FedEx labels we have will be used once we verify order payment is received and order is prepared for shipment.

3. If you canceled your order after receiving email from FedEx the order will not ship.

4. Retain the confirmation number you received from FedEx. You will be able to use it to track your package when your order does ship.

5. As stated in our ATB sales terms and conditions, orders can take up to six weeks from date of purchase for delivery

6. JHCB will not respond to email inquires regarding order shipping status.

7. JHCB is unable to verify receipt of payments. If there is a problem with your payment you will hear from us by early next week.


We apologize for the confusion and appreciate your understanding.

Thank you,

JACK HUNT COIN BROKER INC.

America the Beautiful - P.O. Box 4189 - Kenmore NY 14217

 
At April 6, 2011 at 7:22 AM , Anonymous Andrew said...

I received the same email from Jack Hunt yesterday as well... HOWEVER, I just received my package from FedEx 10 minutes ago... WOOHOO!

 
At April 6, 2011 at 7:23 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

My coins from Hunt just arrive a few minutes ago... be on the look out for FedEx!

 
At April 6, 2011 at 8:03 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Well, let's see....

Apr 6, 2011 6:49 AM On FedEx vehicle for delivery

 
At April 6, 2011 at 10:06 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

I just received my coins from Jack Hunt this morning. My order # was 29XX. I had the money order to them in 1 day. The coins were shipped in bubble lined manila envelopes, wrapped in bubble wrap inside a box wrapped in bubble wrap inside another box. One coin has some slight scratches on the edges and a couple of dots on the obverse. The rest are almost proof-like and very nice. Does anyone know where I can get Airtights for these coins?

 
At April 6, 2011 at 2:19 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Got Em!

 
At April 6, 2011 at 7:14 PM , Anonymous Jeff S. said...

Fantastic service from Jack Hunt Coin Broker. Just got my 5oz ATB's todday....-man were those things packaged well....best packing I've ever seen -they took great care.
I'd buy again from this group.

Thanks JHC.....Jeff

 
At April 7, 2011 at 3:53 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

I just got an email from JHCB that they have not received the payment. The tracking of the priority mail showed delivery on March 31. Has anyone encountered the same problem?

 
At April 7, 2011 at 4:12 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Money orders were sent and received based on tracking on March 31. Email from JHCB today said they have not received the payment. Anyone with similar experience?

 
At April 7, 2011 at 8:55 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Recieved my 2010 ATB silver coins from JHCB today. 04/07/2011 I never thought I would ever get one. By chance I turned on my computer and read MINT NEWS BLOG.
Thankyou

 
At April 9, 2011 at 6:28 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

I mailed money order on 3/29. USPS showed delivery on 3/31. Got an email from jack saying money not received too!!!

 
At April 10, 2011 at 3:37 PM , Blogger Brandon said...

Jack Hunt just opened sales back up

 
At April 16, 2011 at 6:57 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

all this whining about pricing and packaging yada yada yada meanwhile the ATB sets we all bought at around $40/oz...what does a silver eagle cost these days?? $45 hello!!? trolls!!? winning!!

 

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