Yosemite Five Ounce Coins at 25,338
The United States Mint has confirmed that the waiting list notice which previously appeared on the online product page for the Yosemite National Park Five Ounce Silver Uncirculated Coin was "inadvertently posted." Based on the new report available today, sales have reached 25,338 out of the 27,000 maximum mintage.
The following statement has been provided by the Mint:
The 2010 America the Beautiful Five Ounce Silver Uncirculated Coins — Yosemite National Park are not sold out. Unfortunately, however, a message saying that a waitlist for the coins had been put into place was inadvertently posted to the United States Mint’s online catalog on June 23. As soon as we learned the message had been posted, we removed it. We also lifted the household order limits for these coins the week of July 4. We regret the error on our part and the inconvenience the posting of the waitlist language caused our customers.It seems rather unusual that a notice incorrectly posted on the website would not be realized for more than two weeks. The appearance of the waiting list notice and the presumed sell out was reported at various online and print publications such as CoinUpdate.com, Mint News Blog, and Numismaster/Numismatic News. The presence of the notice also likely had an impact on the pace of sales over the past few weeks. Many potential customers viewing the notice may have chosen not to order since it indicates a reduced chance of the order actually being fulfilled.
With the waiting list notice and ordering limits removed, we may now see some indication of the level of demand for multiple coin orders.
The Grand Canyon Five Ounce Silver Coins continue to track slower than the Yosemite release. Sales have now reached 20,834, which compares to sales of 23,104 Yosemite coins over a comparable sales period.
Coin Update News: New US Mint Sales Report
Labels: America the Beautiful Quarters
posted by Mint News Blog @ 1:15 PM
108 Comments:
This whole Yosemite episode has been extremely weird, from start to finish. Thanks for trying to unravel the mess, Michael.
the u.s. mint should have offer 20,000 instead of 27,000 for collectors. and the bullion should produce over 100,000 instead of 33,000 on its first year.
"The United States Mint has confirmed that the waiting list notice which previously appeared on the online product page for the Yosemite National Park Five Ounce Silver Uncirculated Coin was "inadvertently posted." "
You just have to wonder if this "inadvertent" posting was a ploy to drum up business.
Just got my Yosemite back from NGC SP70 yea baby..........
I bet 1,662 people returned them.
I got my GC ATB this morning and it looks like another nice one so that makes 4 nice ATB P coins so far for me. I hope my good luck continues.
My only complaint is that the coins are so damn hard to get out of the boxes - I literally spent 20-30 mins. getting the coin out of the box while trying not to damage either the coin or the box. I figure this will be a one time event because now that it is back in the box - it's in there for good now because I have no desire to go thruogh that again. As far as I'm concerned the two sides of this coin are a GC reverse and blue cardboard obverse - sorry George.
Put a bullet through this series, it is as good as dead and buried.
3000 AGE unc's sold so far and as prices continue to increase this will probably slow sales even more which will increase the chances this coin will have the lowest sales figures of all the AGE's including the proofs and fractionals. But as PM prices continue to increase, collectible AGE's in future years may be even lower - maybe higher gold prices will be a good reason for the mint to bring back fractional AGE unc's in the future.
Well when silver is over $100 oz then $200 oz and higher people will have a more favorable opinion about these ATB coins and those of us who bought now will be glad we did and those who didn't will be wishing they had.
I think calling the series dead is a bit premature. I think every coin up to and including Mount Hood is likely to sell out.
But after that, we'll see.
In a way I wouldn't be sad if they ended the "P" program after Mount Hood. While I do like the coins quite a bit (in terms of quality and design I think Grand Canyon is the best yet), they are an awful strain on my finances. The regular bullion versions are much more affordable, and switching to them would be something of a relief, assuming the Mint makes enough for everyone.
This has been one of the most bizarre coin series. First the mint produced these last year on silver when silver was around 20 bucks. Next they wait around for half year after striking to release them when silver was near a peak of 40 something. This then justifies a ginormous price. This in turn puts stress on many collector budgets. Then the demand starts to fizzle out.
For some reason the mint wants the 2010's sold out before releasing the 2011's. And they won't sell out fast enough even at a modest mintage of 27 large. Man, this whole thing is weird. I plan on the 2010's and after that things get very iffy for me.
I just received my GC ATB and it looks really great. No TPG is ever going to see it because I believe a lot of what they do is a scam and my eye is just as good as theirs.
Even if the 2011 AGE unc. coins continue to sell at the current rate of about 400 a month for the next 12 months (which is probably a high guess) that would be an additional 4800 sales for a total sales figure of about 7800 which would be about 1000 less than the 2008 unc 1/4 oz. sales figure. The 2011 AGE unc. coin seems to be the sleeper coin of the year.
I just ordered more Yosemite coins, I believe they will do just fine.
The rest of you can suite yourselves.
I hope the order limit is removed for GC and MH!
The disappearance of the waiting list notice for the Yosemite coin is all a conspiracy. Are you happy? I'm sure that's what all of you would like to hear :o) .
Also, the 2011 W uncirculated gold eagle coin continues to sell in relatively high numbers per week, with several months of sales left to go.....
93 coins is "relatively high"? I think you must be relatively high!
6:03...I was gonna say something, but your comment is much better.
Well said!!
Even if the 2011 AGE unc. coins continue to sell at the current rate of about 400 a month for the next 12 months (which is probably a high guess) that would be an additional 4800 sales for a total sales figure of about 7800 which would be about 1000 less than the 2008 unc 1/4 oz. sales figure. The 2011 AGE unc. coin seems to be the sleeper coin of the year.
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Sleepers go undetected until it is too late. Many people are calling this one a sleeper, so you know that will not be the case. These will sell rapidly next time gold price drops a level.
Well when silver is over $100 oz then $200 oz and higher people will have a more favorable opinion about these ATB coins and those of us who bought now will be glad we did and those who didn't will be wishing they had.
The year will be 2511...LOL
To:
"Sleepers go undetected until it is too late. Many people are calling this one a sleeper, so you know that will not be the case. These will sell rapidly next time gold price drops a level."
Next time gold drops...don't hold your breath. This coin has all the makings of going under the rader...just like the 8-8-08 Double Prosperity set that I bought on Jan. 11 2009 for $1078.88
To: Anon 6:14pm
Even if gold prices go down some - how long would it last? It's hard to predict prices in the short term but unless there is a long term correction in gold prices or maybe something else that dramatically increases demand in these coins I just don't see how it is likely the 2011 AGE unc coins will sell more than 8800 but we'll see.
Anonymous 6:03pm,
that's a good one - well said
So is the 2008-W 1/4 oz with a mintage of 8,883 the lowest to date? And the lowest W unc one oz coin is the 2008-W with a mintage of 11,908?
But wasn't there also a 4 coin set sold that would increase these numbers?
I said from the start the the wait list notice for Yosemite was bogus. I knew there was no way they would have sold enough coins so quickly after the 23,XXX reported sales number to reach 27,000. I always suspected it was a ploy to get people to try to order faster. The mentality might be that if you place an order quickly enough after the wait list notice, you will probably still get a coin.
Mount Hood should be hanging around for a long while. That one will probably still be for sale in October!
If the Mint hadn't been so dumb as to sell these individually on staggered release dates, they would have sold all 27,000 sets of five on the first day. Even if they didn't offer a set of all five in a display case, they could have at least offered all five coins individually at once! I would have bought all five the first day, slow website or not. I've been through worse.
I agree the Mint should of offered the 2010 ATB 5 oz as a set. They could of sold them like the proof gold eagles with options to buy an individual coin or the complete set.
They could of sold 15,000 complete sets and then offered 12,000 individual coins. (or vice versa)
well I don't know what life on this planet will be like in 500 years but just looking at recent history - pm prices in the 70's increased more than 20 fold and the economy today is considerably worse so silver prices at $200 in a few years may likely be an underestimate.
The yosemite is the last 5oz that I bought . I am done with the these coins. I think this series is going to slow way down. I may be interested if the series get below 10,000 mintage per coin. The slow sales are happening to the spouse series.I will slow down. Hold your cash for the truly low montage.
Anon 6:35pm
The AGE website states:
"the mintages listed are generally composed of individual coins sales plus any sales made through multiple coin sets"
so the 8883 figure for the 2008 w 1/4 oz is the total combined sales figure for individual coin and the coins sold in the 4 coin set.
Here's the page link:
http://goldeagleguide.com/mintages/
Thanks, I see that now...I looked at the 2008-W 1/2 oz Buffalo mintages and see the total includes all the options...individual, 8-8-08 set, etc.
Again, with the 2011-W one oz unc being the ONLY option, it will be easy to track total sells.
I noticed on ebay that there is not a single coin for sell or already sold in the OGP...all are slabbed...and not many of them. I think one of these in the OGP may be the rarest of all!!
I see we have some dreamers here. Dreamin' of gold prices dropping. Everyone should have a dream I guess. And that is definitely a dream unless something catastophic happens. And in that case we will be buying food instead of metal unless the metal is lead.
I've been hoarding silver for the past 3 years or so and my only regret is that I didn't start much sooner.
I actually don't own any physical gold nut I think the 2011 w unc coin might be a good place to start - if I can just get the money together and hopefully buy before the mint raises prices again.
I was also looking on ebay and a couple of other websites for the 2011 AGE unc coin (APMEX is currently sold out) but another website has the coin slabbed NGC 69 for $30 - $40 less than current mint price and slabbed NGC 70 (brown label) for about $1900 which I was considering. But maybe I'll just buy from the mint to get OGP - like I said hopefully before prices go up again.
Ever since the bank started paying me 1% or less on my money I started looking at percentage saved vs. dollars saved. Here’s an example of why buying Proof Gold Eagles from the mint is a better value today than it was two years ago.
When I started buying PMs a few years ago I paid $14 plus $2 (15% over spot) plus shipping and 3% credit card surcharge to the PM dealers for my ASE. The premium was well over 20% for the total purchase.
In comparison, when gold was $800 the mint charged $1085 for a Proof Gold Eagle. The premium is $218 or 20%. Today gold is over $1550 and the price of a Proof Gold Eagle is $1785. The premium is now $235 but it’s only around 13% which is a 7% savings! Factor in $4.95 for shipping and NO credit card surcharge and the value today is better than the PM dealers and better than 2 years ago.
If only we could buy bullion direct from the mint we could save more.
Well, all said...I like the 2010 bullion ATB a lot, the 2010-P somewhat, and the 2011-W unc eagle.
I wonder what will happen if the debt limit is not raised?
Is anyone else's GC ATB stuck on "in stock and reserved"? I ordered on day 2 of release.
I Ordered GC ATB within 10 minutes on First day . It still states "in stock and reserved". Cannot figure out what's going on. Will likely call Customer svc if it does not move in a day or so for follow- up.
I ordered my GC coin late on day 1 and received my coin Mon morning (7-12) like many others have said. Mine looks like a nice coin.
Sorry, I meant Tues. morning (7-12)
I agree the Mint should have offered all 5 2010P ATBs at once. That would have sold out in a day.
Now that the slower sales of Yosemite and GC clearly show that interest is waning, the Mint should do something so it doesn't suffer the same fate as the FS series.
First, they should not increase the mintage of the 2011P ATBs. It should remain at 27,000. Secondly, they should offer all 5 of the 2011Ps at once. I bet all those people saying they won't buy or not sure about the 2011 would be jumping back in.
Now watch that sell out in a few days if not the first day.
what does everyone think are the chances there will be 25th ann. eagkes this year?
In my experience, "In Stock and Reserved" is usually a "waiting" status before the coin is shipped. Typically it goes from backordered to in stock and reserved to shipped. I would expect that anyone whose status has changed to that should have their coin shipped shortly.
@July 12, 2011 11:02 PM
Given the fact that the Mint still has the 2011 ATB P and 2011 Silver Eagle UNC to be released in the next few months. The chances for 25th anniversary coins are close to zero.
I see we have a dreamer her. Dreamin' of gold prices increasing. Dream on. I would rather put my money in more secure investments than gold.
Go ahead, put all of your retirement life savings in gold and precious metals. Sell your home and put it in gold if you have faith it will increase in value forever.
Guess who will have the last laugh? HAHAHAHAHA!!!
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I see we have some dreamers here. Dreamin' of gold prices dropping. Everyone should have a dream I guess. And that is definitely a dream unless something catastophic happens. And in that case we will be buying food instead of metal unless the metal is lead.
July 12, 2011 7:37 PM
Looking at the US Mint sales report...
Wouldn't you think that the Eliza Johnson FS coin might appreciate more than the $50 uncirculate AGE? They were introduced around the same time. And the AGE coin has sold 3,000 units, vs. around 1,800 units for the FS coin.
ORDERED GC WITH THE RELEASE OF THE SILVER EAGLE 6/30 AND RECEIVED THEM TODAY 7/12. IN ALL THE YEARS I HAVE ORDERED, THIS IS THE FIRST TIME MY COINS CAME WITH OUT SPOTS FLAKES ECT, THAT COULD BE SEEN WITH THE NAKED EYE. OR I AM JUST GETTING OLDER AND CAN'T SEE THEM.
Eliza is ugly and the gold ASE is purrdy. premiums will be adjusted accordingly. Julia tyler is a looker, that's why folks want the coin (reverse of Julia Tyler is pleasing to look at too).
gold is now up to $1575
Michael,
Can you ask the Mint if they could change the ATBs to "Proof" instead of UNC for 2011 and beyond? This would keep the series in demand.
Gold and silver will fall again in the next two weeks when our government works out the debt limit issue. Shorting PMs is the way to go. On the less than 10% that this doesn't happen, gold and silver will double overnight.
gold break the all time record high at $1,580.10 an ounce. some predicted it might break $1,600.00 soon.
Putting all other factors aside, for roughly the same amount of money, I would rather own all of the 5 distinct 2010 P ATB's than buying one gold buffalo or American Eagle that looks the same every year. I already own a few of the gold coins mentioned and I'm always interested in the one year only design coins. Just a little more bang for your buck (or puck, as some have said :-) I'm speaking only as a collector who wants to accumulate as many new precious medal coins as possible.
@ July 13, 2011 6:14 AM
Also, buying all 5 2010 P ATB silver 5 ounce coins would be much cheaper than buying a single 1-ounce Gold buffalo or American Gold Eagle coin.
Anon at 5:00, are you nuts?
If the government expands the debt limit again, metal prices will go absolutely bananas. The general trend upward in PM prices is being driven primarily by inflation, and an increase of the debt ceiling sure as heck doesn't mean less inflation. A formal announcement of QE3 will also send metals prices exploding, probably putting silver back on track for $50.
I have all the silver I need. I really could care less if silver goes to $50 per ounce. I certainly don't collect coins for the investment value, but for the joy of collecting.
In fact, it would be better for me and fellow coin collectors if the value of gold and silver dropped. That way we could build on our collections, which recently have become harder to complete.....
Got my Yosemite and sent it back. The Mint will reimburse my return shipping and not charge me for shipping a new one. I have to fax them my receipt from the PO as proof of shipping.
There was a huge gouge directly in the center of the obverse on Washington's ear. It was plain as day totally noticeable.
I called and they told me they'll send me a new one once they get the damaged on back.
Everybody's right on metal prices. Those who say its goin' up and those who say it won' go up forever. All I know it yellow metal was 250 bucks an oz. ten years ago and now its pushing 1600, a 600 per cent increase. Would I put everything I own in gold. Hell no. But I sure want a piece of the action. Just remember all those financial wizards on television didn't have a clue about the financial crisis in 2008 are mostly saying metal is in a bubble now.
Groucho Marx said "Who you gonna believe, me or your own two eyes?
since most of the u.s.mint silver products were set at $37.50/oz. now it is a fair price.
I prefer my own two eyes. I wouldn't trust Grouch Marx or a stranger who speculates based on greed and emotions.
are we welcome gold trading at an average $1,600.00 to $1,649.99 an ounce?. if yes. then when we are buying from the mint. are we ready to buy those prices.
2011w AGB 1 oz proof - $1,910.00
2011w AGE 1 oz proof - $1,885.00
2011w AGE 1 oz unc --- $1,878.00
2011w FS 1/2 oz proof----$979.00
2011w FS 1/2 oz unc------$966.00
Buy your 2011 AGE unc now before the price increases today at 12:00 ET (I think).
And the Platinum, too if you want to save $100.
"I prefer my own two eyes. I wouldn't trust Grouch Marx or a stranger who speculates based on greed and emotions."
I think you nailed it. I believe that is Groucho Marx's point.
To 8:25 am,
There will be no price increase today (for gold coins, anyway). The average was in the current tier.
I don't know about platinum. I didn't calculate that average, because I don't give a rip. I haven't bought any of the "preamble series" of proofs, nor do I intend to start now.
Maybe if the price of gold keeps climbing and a price increase of at least one tier (perhaps even two tiers) appears imminent next week, that will be all it takes to spur collectors to buy up the last of the Mary Lincoln Proof coins and close the door of the 2010-dated coins.
A stay the same or one tier increase is likely next week. A two tier increase in one week? Not likely. If it happened that would signal way bigger problems in the economy than are being reported.
The price is getting pretty close to $1,600 today. The averages that will determine next week's price begin tomorrow. If gold climbs a little higher and the fixes are just under or above $1,600 for the next several days, theoretically a two-tier price increase could take place. The coins are currently priced in the $1,500-$1,549.99 tier. If next week's average falls in the $1,600-$1,649.99 range, that would be a two-tier price increase.
So actually, the way it looks now, a two-tier price increase is a very real possibility.
If silver hits $40 - $50 per ounce, that will give me a golden opportunity to sell my ATB 5 ounce P coins.
No one can predict the future of the silver market, but as long as I don't lose money on my purchases, I'm fine with that.
"A two tier increase unlikely"
Big increases in metal prices give incentive to investors to sell their metal or metal stock which would knock down the price along with other manipulations. The investors and manipulators control the price. The Mint just responds to the market. I'll go with the people who say one tier or no tier increase. These are my reasonings and worth every bit what you paid for them.
Groucho Marx also says, "I would never join a club that would have me as member."
I wouldn't have ever joined a club that had Grocho Marx as a member either - he was a socialist nut - his last name was very appropriate.
Groucho Marx also says,
"These are my principles. If you don't like them, I have others."
he sure says a lot for a dead guy
Groucho:
"Gold is not money"
Oh wait...that was the Fed chairman.
silver is up to $38 again - I should have probably got a few 2011 ATB coins when silver was around $32 and they well selling for under $200 each.
the scary thing is - Bernanke wasn't joking when he said that.
he's probably a very smart guy but he knows nothing about basic economics and sound money - either that or he is intentionally trying to destroy the economy with his Keynesian low interest rate; increase money supply; inflation creating destroy the value of the US dollar policies.
I went ahead and pulled the trigger on the Grant FS, I am not going to try to play the number games when it is so close. I was hoping for a decrease when we saw gold under 1500 for a minute, but I dont see any decrease happening.
I was hoping there might be a price decrease sometime soon too when gold was under $1500 so I could get a AGE unc a little cheaper but your right the next price change will likely be an increase so I'd better try and buy within the next week or so before that happens.
I also bought my Grant FS coins last week. I held out for the decrease that never happened unfortunately. Since I buy one proof and two uncirculated of each design, it would have saved me $75. But, I got scared that if I waited any longer, the first shipments of coins will have had time to have returns come in and I might have ended up with some of those instead of fresh coins.
The Grant coins have been on backorder status since being released. Has anyone here actually received their coins yet? I'm wondering if any have really been shipped yet.
My GC coin status was "in stock and reserved" for over a week, before it shipped. Something is not right at the mint.
I wonder if the 2011 ASE unc coins are going to be big sellers this year. I haven't decided for sure yet if I will be a buyer or not. I may wait and see how sales are going first.
One thing to keep in mind about the 2011 W uncirculated gold eagle is that it might be included in the 25th Anniversary set, if there is one. That would increase it's mintage enough to take away it's winner status.
2011w sales might be low. but 2012W and 2013w can be lower than 2011w.
gold's at $1585 - seems high but a year from now this price may look like a steal.
most of the u.s. mint products sales keep going south as compare to their previous years.
I agree that sales figures of the AGE unc coins may continue to be low in the years ahead. I mentioned that yesterday somewhere in a post above and I was also wondering if higher prices might encourage the mint to bring back the fractional AGE unc coins because they are more affordable.
And the possibility an ann. set would increase sales of the AGE unless if maybe the ann. coin had a different finish or mintmark or maybe they might finally decide to change the reverse design of the AGE coin to something more appealing but who knows what the mint might do. And don't forget there may be Palladium eagles sometime in the near future and those coins would likely be as popular and unique if not more than the ATB coins.
And we still don't have info about the 2011 ATB P coins yet.
Still a lot of unknowns about what the mint will be doing in the near future.
Where is the pop Zit pop head now?
Where is the guy that predicted that after QE II ends silver and gold will take a dive?
Oh and where are the jobs that Obama promised.
My family calls me a hoarder.
I agree the ATB coins are doomed.
We all got caught up in the hipe and now we all have a chance to get back even and focus back on gold.
The problem is that only the rich can afford to buy it.
The middle class is just about tapped out.
I have to agree that the 27,000/design mintage for ATB P coins that the Mint comes up is pretty reasonable.
According to current sale number, it is sufficient for the real demand from real collectors (excluding silver investors who should better off with bullion version).
And yet it is small enough to reach a quick (relative to other Mint products) final sale out even with relatively high premiums currently.
I believe they will stick to this mintage for the 2011 P's and I see no reason why they will cancel the series at all.
silver is a better investment than gold right now anyway. It sold off from the high of around $50 recently to around $32 or so and that may be the lowest it will ever be again. And silver is more volatile and versatile than gold so as gold continues to increase silver will likely be increasing at a faster rate like at the beginning of the year.
gold might hit $1,600.00 an ounce. moody gonna downgrade u.s. bond rated aaa to a lower grade. gold should open nicely in asia. dow jones future down 78 points.
At the end of the day, the U.S. Mint is charted to "manufacture and distribute circulating coins, precious metals and collectible coins, and national medals to meet the needs of the United States."
As far as it is achieving this goal on ATB P coin as it is doing now, it is not going to cancel the series only because of some price fluctuations on PM market or on ebay auctions.
The mint is selling siver at $60.00per ounce.
This is their cash cow.
Buy all you can get from them; they need the money.
The news says that president Obama is getting half million dollar donation per day for his re-elction. Many of you most likely are donating. Why? because the free spending by the government is going to be supported by QE what- QE21. how clever bunch of coin collectors. gold price in 2014- #20,000/ounce.
Yea it looks as if Obama is in for a second term. The over spending will continue and the price of gold and silver will continue to rise.
I can't wait for Obama care to kick in. In about a year we will all be entitled to the entitlement programs. If you can't beat them.. join em!
I'm still waiting for the iraq oil money to pay for our little war.
@2:44pm
"My family calls me a hoarder."
That's one of the funniest things i heard all day (right next to the Ron Paul/Ben Bernnake exchange: '...gold is not money.. {Bernanke] Then why do banks hold it? Some people still think it money. I yield back the rest of my time"[Paul]'
we should sell $10 trillion dollars of new T-bill to China. and then deny the payment just like Argentina did back in 1990. convert the currency to gold. we would be rich since US has the most gold reserve in Fort Knox. Guys you will recognize your smart investment in gold coins.
Obama for 2012! Putting another Republican will be disastrous for the economy.
George W. Bush ruined our economy and our financial status. We are so deep in debt, we may never climb out of it. It's time to start collecting revenue from the top 2% of all taxpayers so that we can start funding our expenditures.
Obama for 2012. Democrats in both Houses of Congress. God bless the USA.
4:44
You are total fool and exactly what is wrong with this country. You must be on food stamps, welfare and any other handout you can get. That is what the Democrats depend on...the government will take care of you...yeah right.
Hooray for Obamanomics and Keynesianism (aka Bernankeism)!!!!
More than 4 trillion dollars added to the national debt so far in this administration and Obamacare and QE3 are soon to come. Not to mention the ever increasing size of the unfunded liabilities of those wonderful inventions: Medicare, Medicaid and Social Security. Governments are always the solutions to our problems. They understand our problems better than anyone else. Why not? They created them.
"mission accomplished"
All Republic-rats are the same - they like to argue with each other about this or that and make promises to voters about this or that but it is all senseless theatrical nonsense - all they really care about (at least the ones with the most power and influence) is their own political power or they wouldn't be politicians.
Back to coin talk here. For what it's worth, I sent in three Yosemite 2010 P ATB's to PCGS. They all looked flawless to the naked eye. Two graded SP70 and one SP69. I am not a dealer nor someone who could even distinguish an MS70 from an MS69 coin. Maybe I've been lucky, but the 2010 P ATB's I've gotten from the Mint are fantastic.
"All Republic-rats are the same - they like to argue with each other about this or that and make promises to voters about this or that but it is all senseless theatrical nonsense - all they really care about (at least the ones with the most power and influence) is their own political power or they wouldn't be politicians."
And DemocRATS don't? Take your stupid comments to Move-On.org. This is about numismatics!
the 4 ATB P coins I've got so far all look great also - I don't know if I've just been lucky or haven't been unlucky - yet. I hope my MH coin is a good one also so I'll have a complete set of nice problem-free 2010 ATB P coins to go with my 2010 ATB PCGS MS68 PL/DMPL coins I got from APMEX.
Then I'll have to decide if I will continue on to 2011 with these coins - I'm not sure yet.
"Gold and silver will fall again in the next two weeks when our government works out the debt limit issue. Shorting PMs is the way to go. On the less than 10% that this doesn't happen, gold and silver will double overnight."
Hey pinhead, where do you come up with this junk? Did you see the $2 spike in plata today??
guys would you have a little bit long term view on the prices of gold and silver. after our great central bank chairman's QE5 next year your silver and gold would have triple. after our great president Obama's re-election, gold and silver will jump 50% in one day. after our great life-time leader Obama (constitution changes at 2015 for life-term presidency) your silver and gold will be priceless.
Who is running that goat-rope excuse for an operation is a good question.. They are so dysfunctional its almost funny...
There really isn't anyone in charge of anything far as I can tell.. One big committee with no leadership or decision-making body. Almost like the government... OH WAIT!! sheesh.. sorry.. It is the government. Nevermind.
Got my grand canyon yesterday very bad marks on washington's face these are suppose to be collector coins,where is the quality.
Got my grand canyon yesterday very bad marks on washington's face these are suppose to be collector coins,where is the quality.
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